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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.
Yes, I'll just trust the AI to help me fuck around with grid voltage levels.
With google search results becoming so poor, I guess I need to look into kagi or duck-duck. Pain in my dick, motherless goatfucking, horsehit-happy asshole, corporate varmints gotta fuck it all up for more profit. I'm tired, yo.
It's a shortcut for pulling up the manual, 240ish pages long. I'm looking into probes, not currently fucking with 300 volts. Used to be, ask for max specs on a component and get a link to the manufacturer's or sellers summary.
I do appreciate your shitty tone and assumption of my ignorance. While I try and stay under 480V grid power, I do occasionally have to mess with it in a professional capacity. I'm safe, but someone who doesn't understand what they're playing with gets a free ride on the lightning.
When did google search ever gave you random info of the manual? I hate ai as much as the next guy but this isnt an ai problem. Also you dont have to look at the manual, it says what the inputs can take right on the front of the device besides the bnc connectors.
Are you being deliberately obtuse, trying to 'win', or an llm fanboi?
The scope isn't even sitting in front of me. I'm just casually investigating the tooling. Looking at cheapo generic probes, wanted the manufacturer spec sheet/sales page, not the full manual. Used to be, a search like that would return a link to the manufacturer's page showing specs and documents on the product. Instead of going to rigol's site, using their shitty search or selecting submenus. It's not me that gets killed with a search like that, it's someone who doesn't know what they're doing.
God someone saying that something isnt a ai problem but a problem of knowledge or workflow is a "ai fanboy" ? Never ever did google point you to a specific page of a manual when searching for some value of said manual. Why would you even search for the max voltage if you want a the product overview/spec sheet?
This just looks like you searched for a term where you knew the google ai will give some output so you can post here.
And no if someone didnt know what they are doing ai will not change that they shouldnt fiddle arpund with high voltages. Again the problem isnt that someone looks at ai the problem is doing stuff with high voltages when they dont have a clue. Look at homy many people die because they fiddle around with microwave transformers every yeat. Look at how many bad youtube shorts there are about building random circuits that are unsafe that has always been a problem and isnt sppecific to ai.
And there it is. What's your agenda? Be honest.
That's a fucking lie! You're lying.
I was drinking my coffee, having a lazy morning, researching the capabilities of my new-to-me scope while sitting in my study. Scope is in a different room and didn't come witn a paper manual.
User manual, programming manual, and other technical docs are in the reference section of my self hosted library which is currently down, sd card or the board is on the fritz. (Calibre runs best with a desktop environment so it's on it's own little orangepi board running ubuntu or something in a gui that I remote into.)
Looking at third party probes and wanting a quick reference for the input specs. Wondering if I can get away with a 50ohm bnc cable to resistor for the external trigger or if I'm better off grabbing a cheap probe.
I'm not the one being dishonest and searching for something like this is perfectly reasonable and shouldn't result in a personified bot trying to help me fuck with lethal voltages. That's fucking crazy and defending that is a hell of a choice on your part.
Nop i am not. Manuals for measurement equiptment or electronic components are always long pdf docs with 50+ pages and never ever did google give you the pdf from a search. Best you could ever get was the overview site of the manufacturers that is still the first link after the sponsored links in the search at least for me. You never could google a random spec of something like this and get to a page of the manual. Only to something like the general overview. The rigol overview doesnt even display your input specs for your measuring inputs and specific information like the input levels the io of the external trigger are not stated there and like i said would always be in the docs. The datasheet is one of four documents for that device where the max input voltage of the trigger is shown. Then you have a programming manual a service manual and a user manual with many pages that google would have never "just" given you with your search term. Dont pretend that you could have googled that 10 years ago and got the pdf doc in your search.
My point still stands that this is not some ai error that kills someone because ai gave specs for the inputs. Is it not common knowledge that working with high voltages is a no go if you have no clue?
LLMs, the things advertised as the all knowing universal knowledge machine, make laypeople confident, as if they have had a clue on the topic. It presents the info confidently, and the layperson won't know when it is wrong.
What? of course it did, that's what made it such a good search engine.
It's dangerous because non tech folk might not understand that AI results are not trustworthy. They'll just look at it as a faster way to look up the "same" data in the data sheets.
Very, very dangerous ignorance.
But it doesnt matter if they use ai or web search if they dont understand the bare minimum about their equiptment. If you cant even look at the input rating that is written right besides the inputs on the device you are already fucked.
Fair point, but surely that's not the only situation? Maybe you're planning work and aren't right by your equipment, and you're making decisions based on AI output. Danger.
Yea sure then it would be dumb? But this isnt really the case? A person who doesnt know that high voltages are dangerous shouldnt work on high voltages, also the ai output isnt even wrong in this case. If you thing that something valuable comes up with this search its already a problem a random site wwont display sspecifications for your device you should always look at the datasheet. Searching for "max voltage" instead of going to the manufacturers site and/or downloading the datasheet is not really the right aproach.
Its not like op searched "can i connect a 115v device to 230v" and ai giving the wrong awnser. There are many reasons and examples where the ai search is bad, this isnt one of them people dont need to invent cases for ai bad when there are enough real ones out there.
This is easy for you to say, because you have sense. It can somehow be hard to relate to how fucking stupid people can be, even if they have proper domain knowledge, and how much trust people put into technology without questioning it's veracity.