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[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No I think I've spent the last 10-20 years listening to right wing pundits push crazier and crazier conspiracy theories.

I don't give a fuck what the right thinks. They can release the Epstein Files and prove all of this wrong in an instant, they haven't — so they're cannibals.

[–] druk@feddit.uk 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why would the right's crazy conspiracy theories influence reality? I get the projection narrative, but just mirroring what a crazy person says does not necessarily make it not crazy.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You cannot reason someone into a position they did not reason themselves into. What they think and how they feel does not matter, because they aren't the ones in control of it.

I am not mirroring a crazy person, I am shining a light on their crazy. If they'd like to set the record straight they're more than welcome to, but the ball is in their court.

Because of the cannibalism, of course.

Edit: oh, and I know exactly how it influences reality — did you see what happened recently to vaccine mandates in the U.S.? We reduced the number of childhood vaccines from 17 to 11. The specific vaccines are: respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), hepatitis A, hepatitis B, dengue, meningococcal ACWY and meningococcal B. They've cited that only children in high risk categories should get these vaccines.

If that isn't evidence of crazy conspiracy theories affecting reality I don't know what is.

[–] druk@feddit.uk 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for the correction, you're right, crazy conspiracy theories do affect reality in that way. I meant affecting reality in a way where, no matter how many people say vaccines cause autism, it won't make it reality. So by that example, no matter how much the right was 'projecting' about cannibalism and other stuff, that by itself is not proof, or proof of the contrary.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I meant affecting reality in a way where, no matter how many people say vaccines cause autism, it won't make it reality.

I understand where you're coming from, and you're absolutely correct. This is information warfare though, and one side accepts facts and science while the other accepts vibes. Cannabalism is a bad vibe, and if the right wing media ecosystem tries to sanewash it (like the whole 'Trump isn't a pedo, he's a hebephile' sham) — they don't come back from that.

We have to use their cognitive disability against them.