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On loving / hating America. (lemmy.starlightkel.xyz)

submitted 1 month ago by thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz to c/usa@midwest.social

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I've been thinking about this amped up conservative rhetoric that liberals and leftists hate America. We all know that's BS. Right? Except it's not, and we should respond to it for what it is.

"I love an America I grew up in. I love an America I believe in, that I lived most of my life in. Now, the idea of America that you're fighting and "winning" for is killing that America I live in, that I love. So you're right. I hate what you imagine America to be... because it is trying to murder the America that I love. And I don't use the word "murder" lightly, and I apply it to you. And if that means to you that I hate America... then you're right! The America you believe in isn't lovable."

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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I'm one person. If being one soldier in an army is power, so is being one vote in a country. If my vote didn't change anything, neither did my soldering.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Your vote didn't change anything because it was never meant to change anything fundamentally. Just some farce to keep the masses under the delusion that they can change things without collective mass mobilizations. A religious ritual that reaffirms faith in the american capitalist order. Just another cope.

You being a soldier did in fact help with the maintenance of a fascist army though, sorry.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (4 children)

We can vote, or we can murder one another. I chose the former.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mass movements aren't murder. Furthermore you already murder each other en masse so that's a moot point.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Well as I said, killing one another isn't something I support. Kinda feels like an internal issue, though, separate from everything else you've brought up. But while we're on the subject, I oppose the second amendment because it is used to defend the position that we must accept these murders.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

I think admitting fault and joining a leftist organization that opposed american genocide is different to mass murder.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

killing one another isn't something I support.

You literally repeatedly say how proud you are to be part of the USA military. You clearly support killing

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