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On loving / hating America. (lemmy.starlightkel.xyz)

submitted 1 month ago by thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz to c/usa@midwest.social

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I've been thinking about this amped up conservative rhetoric that liberals and leftists hate America. We all know that's BS. Right? Except it's not, and we should respond to it for what it is.

"I love an America I grew up in. I love an America I believe in, that I lived most of my life in. Now, the idea of America that you're fighting and "winning" for is killing that America I live in, that I love. So you're right. I hate what you imagine America to be... because it is trying to murder the America that I love. And I don't use the word "murder" lightly, and I apply it to you. And if that means to you that I hate America... then you're right! The America you believe in isn't lovable."

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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I do know that. And I oppose it. And I wish it had been on the ballot, but both sides support the Israeli genocide so I had to cast a vote batted on other issues. But of course, there are other issues, and if Trump has been staunchly pro-Gaza I still would not have supported him.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

if Trump has been staunchly pro-Gaza I still would not have supported him.

So you're saying that if trump hypothetically wanted to *stop committing genocide for whatever reason, you wouldn't have voted for that?

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Too many other bad policies. Gaza isn't the only issue. If he did oppose the genocide, I would only conclude it was for nefarious purposes. Trump has only ever had a single policy I've ever agreed with, foreign or domestic, then he changed his mind.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Assuming that he would actually end support for pissrael you absolutely should have voted for trump. Ending a genocide that ones country is committing is the single biggest issue for it's citizenry. It is utterly monstrous to consider otherwise, there is no "bad policy" on earth *really that would justify not voting to end genocide. That is a really fucked up thing to admit. *You are deflecting from and minimizing an ongoing genocide that your country is responsible for. That is truly horrible.

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