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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/51866711

Signal was just one of many services brought down by the AWS outage.

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[–] blakemiller@lemmy.world 233 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Her real comment was that there are only 3 major cloud providers they can consider: AWS, GCP, and Azure. They chose AWS and AWS only. So there are a few options for them going forward — 1) keep doing what they’re doing and hope a single cloud provider can improve reliability, 2) modify their architecture to a multi-cloud architecture given the odds of more than one major provider going down simultaneously is much rarer, or 3) build their own datacenters/use colos which have a learning curve yet are still viable alternatives. Those that are serious about software own their own hardware, after all.

Each choice has its strengths and drawbacks. The economics are tough with any choice. Comes down to priorities, ability to differentiate, and value in differentiation :)

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (8 children)

What reason do they give for only wanting to use those three cloud providers? There are many others.

[–] SMillerNL@lemmy.world 60 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 42 points 1 month ago

The big 3 also offer disgustingly fast interconnection. Google, Amazon and Microsoft lay their own undersea fiber for better performance.

If willing to sacrifice a bit of everything, OVH has North-American and European locations, as well as one in India, one in Singapore and one in Australia. They're building a few more in India, one in Dubai, two in Africa, one in NZ and 3 in South America. Once they add a few more on top of those, that's damn near worldwide coverage too. And OVH is a French company, so the US government has less leverage over it than Amazon.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

And yet a single availability zone in AWS going down caused an outage?

[–] SMillerNL@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Yes, because scale is not the same as redundancy.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Signal would need to pay for multi region redundancy and build a programmatic way of swapping regions when their primary region is down.

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