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Okay, cool. I'll continue to organize with groups that uphold existing socialism, rather than throw it under the bus for an easy rhetorical strategy that has always backfired by legitimizing anti-communist narratives.
The symbolism used by communist parties around the world, both in power and not, is a symbol of working class internationalism that trancends borders. Any genuine socialist is going to be slandered and drug under the dirt anyways, abandoning the socialist movement around the world just to try to kick that can down the road just a tiny bit means throwing away allies. It's why the TERF movement is worse for cis feminists, and why trans-inclusionary feminism gains more traction.
Thanks for the response without calling me a racist plantation worshiper. That makes a lot of sense and I didn't mean to offend anyone, I just know that a lot of people would love socialist policies but that symbolism is linked to something else entirely, I know it's stupid, it's not me personally, and it was just a thought to try to further expand socialism's reach by bringing it into the 21st century. Be well.
One thing I don't really understand is what you mean by the hammer and sickle representing "something else entirely," or that you're "bringing it into thr 21st century." The hammer and sickle is used by communist parties around the world that are presently in power and building socialism, such as the CPC in the PRC. The h&s is linked to socialism and socialist movements both past and present, that's why orgs use it as identification with that internationalist movement in the present day.
White people were put off by the civil rights movement. We don't have the choice to abandon things based on popularity. Plus the symbols are cool.