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Am I the only one here that got really bad experience with nextcloud and didn't figured how to make it work correctly?

I'm talking about painfully slow login pages, ages to show files, even upgraded hardware with disk entirely capable of saturing full gig network connection and still...
Getting only about ~30ish MB/s when downloading from nextcloud.
Incredly slow document loading with collabora..

Even if my hardware is not new-gen, a app like immich works flawlessly and loads everything instantly.
Is it the fault of next cloud or am I doing something wrong?
Are alternatives like seafile or openCloud better?

Willing your help fellow selfhosters

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[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I ran nextcloud for years on good hardware and its always been the weakest self hosted app I have. I moved to seafile for a bit and then ultimately owncloud OCIS.

OCIS is a modern app that is massively better since its written with modern languages / frameworks

[–] uninvitedguest@piefed.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm one of the people who is happy with my Nextcloud setup (outside of never quite getting only office to work in browser after I hooked it all up to a reverse proxy behind HTTPS), but I always try to keep my eye on developments in the space for a potential better solution. I looked at OCIS a while back, but it didn't have the quality of life features that I enjoy to make it worth me switching from a working Nextcloud deployment.

Does OCIS have a desktop client that supports on-demand file synchronization (a la OneDrive) rather than just selective folder sync? Does it support storing files as is in a natural directory structure or is everything stored as a flat file blob? Is it able to handle external storage even if that external storage is physical storage on a container mount point?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Owncloud is an enshittified mess. There are very good reasons that Nextcloud hardforked and ran. Stay far away.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

OCIS is a modern app that is massively better since its written with modern languages / frameworks

Ah, the sparkle makes it better? I know a guy who made his RAM light up in his plexiglas case, and claims it made the computer faster. Same deal?

OCIS talks a good talk, almost suggesting it's enterprise and scalable and such, but it still suffers from the same supply-chain risk that all the black-box container miasma does, and the same "just get your kerbal space shuttle launching and then you too can host this awesome simple install" math. The 'single black-box binary' isn't a good fall-back measure.

Now, I realize I've cast aspersions on our holy neu-paradigm installation fad, and I get the downvotes. If people don't understand why validation is an important part of the validation-proves-consistency-thus-reliability of enterprise build/release, that's okay. Most people don't know they even need proper releng practice anyway, but may react with downvotes. But we need to do better where it matters; and that's a line that's going to seem as arbitrary as a bedtime is to a tween.