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Plenty of us are using Docker, Podman, Incus, chroot jails, etc to isolate services.

It has become good practice and it makes setting up yet another service, usually, so convenient.

Some services like YunoHost, StartOS, Cloudron and others try to facilitate the process.

What I haven't seen though is a way to facilitate interoperability BETWEEN services we self-host. Sure there are plugins for each service, e.g. https://www.npmjs.com/package/peertube-plugin-livechat to provide XMPP chat for PeerTube, or anecdotal discussions e.g. https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/issues/7601 to embed PeerTube on Jitsi Meet.

So... how do YOU do it? How do you make on self-hosted service with another? Do you check after each one you install in the plugin category? Do you write your own plugins or extensions? Do you have a design pattern (e.g. Swagger API discovery with token generation per service, "cheat" via sockets, use a dedicate new service or even host) which you repeat?

I do ask because I bet most of you have a moment like this :

  • Hey how about we start this new project together?
  • Yes, let's change the World!
  • OK let's write manifesto.md
  • Where are we going to host it?
  • Hmmm we could use my Cryptpad instance...
  • OK but I don't get notification on my GMail, could we use GoogleDocs instead?

So... I feel like FLOSS self-hosting is honestly on-par functionality-wise with proprietary solutions. I might be bias but it's rare when I think "Damn... that's cool, shame I can't have it at home". I can nearly always (in fact I have a hard time thinking of an example) self-host functional equivalent solutions myself. The ONE thing that I feel is often missing is integration which relies on interoperability.

How do YOU it?

PS: this isn't about ntfy, PeerTube, HA or any specific service to a specific problem, it's about HOW to facilitate, when one wants to, already great services work together.

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[–] abeorch@friendica.ginestes.es 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@utopiah No but if you write the application scripts to take account of parameters that you know from the yunohost instance then you can dynamically integrate applications (e.g set the eMail server parameters from yunohost into Nextcloud, configure the single sign on inside Nextcloud to use the Yunohost SSL as well as say getting parameters from one application and using them in the configuration of another)

[–] abeorch@friendica.ginestes.es 1 points 2 weeks ago

@utopiah You could for instance link Kodi and HomeAssistant by scripting the installation of HomeAssistant when its installed to add the Kodi Plugin - then either install Kodi locally or find it on your local network and pre-configure HomeAssistant to connect to it.