Memes

You are treating any distinction I make as if it is an attempt to portray europe as moral.

Because you are. You're trying to portray Europe as having the moral right to police Russia's behavior.

europe has taken part in serious crimes and carries responsibility for them.

Though not, apparently, in any way that you think should prevent Europe from acting as world police or open them up to retaliation.

My point is that political systems are not identical.

No, your point was that your political system is better, and thus Europe should not be judged as harshly. But it isn't and it should.

Europe’s structures are too often captured by interests and often fail

Yes, which is why they are not different to Russia.

but they still allow for leadership changes, court rulings, investigations and public pressure

I already went into detail about why that's bullshit. You completely ignoring that to just restate your bullshit assertion is the height of cowardice.

Even in eastern europe elections have been re-run and parties banned after proven foreign interference

If you're seriously going to try to argue that Europe has only banned leftist parties after "proven foreign interference" then you're straight up just a McCarthyist fascist and you might as well start ranting about Judeo-Bolshevick conspiracies, because that's where you're at politically.

These mechanisms are limited, but they exist. Russia removes them entirely.

As I stated before (and you ignored), that is worse for Europe then: having these mechanisms and choosing never to use them to prevent genocidal atrocity is worse than not having them at all.

Acknowledging this difference is not excusing western actions.

Lol. That's nonsense: your whole argument has been in service of excusing western actions. Literally your whole point was that Europe's atrocities arnt as bad because European chose to commit them.

If your view is that any distinction is a double standard

My view is coming up with a bunch of rationalisation to defend European atrocities, which are vacuous at best and outright false at worst, is a double standard. Because, as I said before (and you ignored), you would never in a million years try to come up with these kind of rationalisations for any country other than European ones.

we don’t want nor need war in europe

A great many Europeans are absolutely frothing at the mouth for war with Russia. And it's true that the rest of you don't want it in Europe: but in the middle east instead.

but russia (a fully captured state) seems hell bent on bringing it.

Yeah; once again, Europeans are in no position to accuse other countries of being "hell bent on bringing war" (or of being fully captured).

I suppose that when it eventually falls, it will fall hard.

Uhuh. Once again. You might as well start ranting about Judeo-Bolshevick conspiracies and white, European destiny.