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How progressives are taking over swing states – and driving fear into Democratic elites
(www.theguardian.com)
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That's a contradiction
Really? Bernie Sanders, AOC, or Illhan Omar aren't a historical representation of progressive Democrats?
Bernie is an independent, he just caucuses with Democrats
Do they call for dismantling the nuclear arsenal and banning all carbon fuels (the two biggest existential threats to all life on earth)?
I'm talking about progressives, not center-left.
That's always been the left's weakness: not knowing when a battle not yet taken constitutes a fundamental undermining of the claim about progressiveness. Some battles are going to have to be saved for a future generation. Let's focus on securing the winnable battles today: universal health-insurance (Luigi wouldn't be a folk hero today if it were what we had) and decarbonization (that took a huuuge leap in the last few years with how accessible solar power is now). The grandkids can work on de-nucularization.
What? Why not both?
Stop thinking like a Democrat. If you move to the right, you'll loose the vote. Be a proud progressive, and people will be ecstatic to vote for you
Okay? Here's what it actually is. Nuclear missiles have defensive uses that make them still useful, and it'll probably take a while longer for us to decide how to maintain their utility while also ending the threat of a nuclear apocalypse.
How do nuclear warheads have life-saving utility beyond being a doomsday device? Well, we probably need to launch a nuclear missile to bomb asteroid 2024 YR4 within the next few years to push it off course so it doesn't hit the moon, which would throw up a bunch of big debris that would fall to Earth and kill a bunch of people. Maybe not planet-killing debris, but city-killing probably.
Yes, actually, the vast majority of nuclear disarmament to date was done under Obama and by a series of treaties promising protection to countries who disarm (treaties which then get ignored by Republicans).
Biden and Obama, and democrat simple majority, also made the biggest investments to date into renewables and EVs.
Don't spread misinformation.
Biden and Obama both supported the continued burning of fossil fuels and keeping the nuclear arsenal.
EVs and reducing the nukes is not a solution. We need a progressive who will end it. Now.
We can talk all day about ideal scenarios but at the end of the day you have two options: a decent person or a Republican, and if decent people don't unite under one name on the ballot you will have a Republican.
There is not nor will there ever be a solution where the USA and only the USA disarms the entire nuclear arsenal. Thats just begging for the Apocalypse to start. We know Russia and China are restrained by nukes, emboldened by the lack thereof, we tested this theory in Ukraine.
You are the problem
So, it's all or nothing? Don't take any victories unless you're guarunteed to take every victory?