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honest query: conservatives hate popular vote / ranked choice / anything that cleans up the absurdities of the electoral college. how the fuck do we pass something like that with half the states fighting everything?
Oh, I didn't say I knew how to make that happen.
Democrats when they're in power promoting places like Puerto Rico and DC into states definitely wouldn't hurt, though.
Also, theoretically Trump getting less and less popular is probably helping its chances.
And more awareness of the existence of the pact is definitely beneficial.
Whether it's likely to happen even if the above all happens, who knows.
hope springs eternal.
So it doesn't take half the states to pass it. It only takes enough states to make up half of the electoral votes. It could actually be done with as few as 12 states if those with the most electoral votes all agreed (though that requires Texas and Florida to join the compact). But even now, there are only 17 states and DC officially joined in the compact, yet that already makes up almost 39% of electoral votes. They will need some red or purple states to join too, to reach the number of course. There's not enough electoral votes in all the solid blue states alone. Purple state Pennsylvania, and red states Kansas and South Carolina all have bills in committee to join. Were they all to pass, they'd have 45% of the electoral college in the compact.
It's to the benefit of hard red states too though. It will make their needs more of a priority for campaigning presidents instead of only Swing States being pandered to. The Swing states are the only ones that have a vested interest in preserving the status quo. And it's not like Trump wouldnt be president now if the compact was triggered now (unfortunately) so it's silly to pretend that it would prevent conservative presidencies.
NPVIC was a great idea to me in 2017, but less so in 2025.
Why? Because sometimes the majority chooses fascists? So, of course that is always a risk, though it is a risk without the NPVIC too, clearly, and I think makes it more likely as well. But you also have to remember that the majority of voting eligible people do not vote regularly. There's any number of reasons for that, but a major reason for it is winner-take-all states make states hard red or hard blue states. People who dont align with their states' hard political lean justifiably feel like voting is pointless as their vote ultimately wont count towards the final decision. But if the NPVIC were in place, more people would have a good reason to turn out as their vote will actually count. And people who dont live in swing states will have to be given more concern from campaigns too.
But ultimately, it is only a bandaid for a broken system. The electoral college is bullshit and so is Plurality voting. And frankly, voting should be compulsory and accommodated at every level. Make it compulsory, implement the Approval voting system for every election (eliminating the dominance of the two party system in the process), and the competition of ideas will make one party control of each branch, and thus run-away fascism, significantly harder to achieve. But then we seem to be already well too late for that.
Compulsory and making Election Day a Federal Holiday but yeah agreed
It doesn't take half the states, just half the states worth of electoral votes - and yeah, getting texas and florida... not likely. it's an awesome idea, but the hurdles are real.
they've never really voted to their own benefits if they conflict with the gop's mission. see: everything