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[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Marxist does not get to exclusively define what imperialism is. A more standard definition is far more reasonable to use. However, your comment is very informative to me, I'm glad you took the time to write this out

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

"A more standard definition" than the one that's been in use for over a hundred years and accurately describes the dynamic in question? The definition liberals use is both new and entirely vibes-based. It is useless for anything but bringing geopolitical conversations to a screeching halt with murky equivocations. The Marxist definition exists to clarify, while the liberal definition exists to obscure. It's the "socialism is when the government does stuff" of international relations.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

The Marxist definition is strictly different, not a clarification. The Marxist one posits only capitalism can be imperialist, something I would say is strictly incorrect

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Imperialism is quite literally the highest stage of capitalism. The way liberals use it is just as a synonym for "aggressive". What definition do you propose that doesn't make like, the D-Day landings imperialist? Downvote isn't mine, btw

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

aggression with an expansionist agenda.

especially by a country and especially unprovoked.

Economically or militarily.

D-day wouldn't be included because the goal wasn't expansion. Though I would be very surprised if the usa and Europe hadn't perpetrated many acts that should be included during the full course of the war.

And of course you can get into the argument of cultural imperialism as well

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago

Marxist does not get to exclusively define what imperialism is

Marxism isn't the only analytical lens out there, no. But the people you're arguing with are working with that definition, which is why I took the time to clarify. Thank you for appreciating my effort post though lol