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it's so over (lemmy.ml)

submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml

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[–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 89 points 3 weeks ago (28 children)

You know that humans lived in communal societies for a long fuckin time before all the bullshit we know today, right?

Human nature is not greed. That's capitalism.

[–] Stitch0815@feddit.org 44 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Pretty sure humans have been bashing in each others heads over resources since the dawn of humanity.

Capitalism made it worse and more efficient tho.

[–] turdas@suppo.fi 55 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Half the problem with capitalism is that we aren't allowed to bash in the heads of the people who took all the resources.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

Came here to say this, the problem is the system of government because everyone can be bought. We need direct democracy where there are no representatives that can be bought

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

The mode of production takes priority, capitalism with direct democracy would still fall to the same problems intrinsic to capitalism.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's basically true, but I think capitalism would overthrow direct democracy.

People would vote for higher wages and then there'd be a coup.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago

Sure, the base will shape the superstructure. Any levers that can be pulled within capitalism will either be destroyed or nerfed if proven too effective at gaining what workers want.

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah of course, this meme is meant to be making fun of the idea that "human nature" (whatever that may be lol) in any way disproves communist or anticapitalist theory

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[–] myszka@lemmy.ml 78 points 3 weeks ago

Human nature on its deathbed when it realizes it forgot to account for Karl Marx

[–] Mambert@beehaw.org 67 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

Observing humans in capitalism and assuming greed is just human nature is like observing humans on the Titanic and assuming drowning is human nature.

[–] myszka@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It's just rejecting your responsibility in the way you behave. "It's not me, it's the nature"

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[–] hedge_lord@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

It's in Human Nature to be violent, which I why I've made sure to arm my kindergarten class with knives. Because otherwise I would not be accounting for Human Nature.

(note: this is sarcastic, I did not arm a kindergarten class with knives)

[–] Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago

(However I did give them hard plastic clubs shaped in the form of shovels)

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

you armed them with knives in a gun fight?!

[–] Rudee@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They're doing the best they can with a teacher's salary

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[–] webp@mander.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago

Oh, you are being sarcastic? Wouldn't have guessed

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[–] kwomp2@sh.itjust.works 36 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Welcome to todays episode of criticizing things you haven't read:

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago

and won't read. lol

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So you're saying he forgot to account for the human nature of judging things you haven't seen/read/experienced?

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[–] redti@lemmy.zip 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Marx didn't forgot such thing he refuted it. No such thing as " human nature "

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[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Even if you assume human nature is greed, it's also human nature to have their babies eaten by wolves but I don't see anyone suggesting we should center our society on baby tossin' wolf pits.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Well that's WHERE youre wrong buddy. Wolf pits are the last GREAT thang ABOUT this cuntry and I won't HAVE no liburels taking them!

Edit: capitalized more words.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Killing people who don't worship the same Gods as you, taking slaves from the neighboring city state, and having a harem of ~~sex slaves~~ "wives" are all "human nature" that have all been done since before we had the technology to record them all the way up to today. Should those be tolerated in modern society too? Hell no.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 4 points 3 weeks ago

Dying from infections, cancer, accidents etc is also human nature.

[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

Capitalism doesn't work, and it's for the same reason.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Liberal doomerism based on imaginary restrictions, how new.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 27 points 3 weeks ago (21 children)

it's not just imaginary, humans thrived of mutual cooperation for tens of thousands of years while capitalism has only existed for a few hundred, but somehow that it's became the default position of everyone.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yes. I am pointing that out. That is the imaginary thing.

"Somehow," looks behind us at five centuries of European settler-colonialism.

"Everyone," looks ahead at the millions of people who defy hegemonically enforced constructions of human nature despite the overwhelming power those systems possess.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It used to be human nature. Nowadays it's nothing more than social engineering that teaches us what is up is down and what isn't, is.

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[–] RindoGang@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 weeks ago

Me when I take all napkins and salt shakers from every restaurant because apparently greed is just human nature

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (23 children)

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 weeks ago

Common refrain from capitalism fans is that communism can never work because humans are inherently selfish/greedy as proven by their observation that humans are selfish and greedy in the system that rewards selfishness and greed.

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