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[–] Beacon@fedia.io 114 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

I feel like movies haven't changed much at all since around mid 90s. Like as long as current day fashion doesn't appear in the movie, then i don't see how a person would even be able to tell if a movie came out today vs. twenty years ago.

[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 48 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Easy: the effects got worse /hj

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Effects have gotten better, but they've made everything else worse. Costume? Add it in post. Proper lighting? Add it in post. The entire set? Add it in post.

Add second screen syndrome and every new movie and TV show is perfect to have on in the background while you scroll through Facebook

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[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 25 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

The pacing got much faster over time. Comparing LotR with a new MCU film, you clearly notice the shift. (Admittedly, LotR was a little slower than the average movie at the time)

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's not a valid comparison, lotr was waaaay slower and longer than movies of its time. If you want to compare against a modern mcu movie then you have to compare to a similar type of movie, like for example even years before lotr look at men in black from 1997

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I feel like if you're comparing it to modern movies, the MCU isn't really fare. Compare it to Dune maybe. I'd guess the new Dune is still paced faster with more action, but I'm not really sure. They're probably not that dissimilar. Probably the biggest difference is Dune (part 2 in particular) has a constant building of tension, with no release until the end. LotR builds and releases tension in cycles.

Arguably Dune should be even slower than LotR, as almost all the action in the Dune books is at best mentioned, but it isn't focused on. Meanwhile the new Dune movies, especially the second, added a ton of fighting that wasn't in the books and doesn't really fit the story of the books. The LotR books are slow, but it does give quite a bit of detail on fights and battles.

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[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

There's actually quite a lot that's changed in cinema since then. Since digital cameras and effects are incredibly common these days, we light everything very flatly so that it's easier to change in post without reshoots. It makes lighting abysmally bad. (See wicked where the actress in vibrant green makeup looks a little grey the entire movie).

Pacing is also much faster, there's more emphasis on not confusing audiences rather than letting things have mystery. Dialogue is more quippy rather than grounded.

Oh! And since there's no more mid-budget movies, there's a whole lot less comedies running around. Everything is either high budget, wall-to-wall action or grounded indie films with very little in-between.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Cellphones changed shape.

90s movies did not have 'MillenialSpeak' / 'Marvel-isms'. They had cheesy one-liners. Which were better.

Club scenes are no longer filled with Goths, they're filled with Jocks and Popular Girls.

Scores are generally much less unique and interesting these days.

More frantic pacing, contemplation is not allowed, outside of arthouse films.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I REALLY hate the new fight montages where they jumpcut every punch like in Matrix 4. They never let it settle enough for you to get your berings, feels like it's just a rabid weasel with a gopro starapped to it.

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[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i recently rewatched the first jurassic park and wow is it so incredibly different from new movies. i don't dislike it though.

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That's actually quite an interesting topic. Some good things in the comments, too.

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[–] Ethalis@jlai.lu 60 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Unironically.

Saving Private Ryan came out in 1998.

Matt Damon was born in 1970.

So he was 28. He is now about 27 years older, so about 55.

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[–] superweeniehutjrs@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

I know a highschooler that won't watch anything from before 2000, won't watch lotr for other reasons like broken attention span.

[–] GandalftheBlack@feddit.org 44 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

A marathon of the extended editions is exactly what they need. Phone locked away during viewing.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Did this with my 16yo a couple months back. She was sick last week and marathoned them again on her own.

I was so proud

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 12 points 2 weeks ago

You should be!

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's honestly one of my favourite marathons to do on a cold winter weekend, excited for my annual viewing :)

[–] GandalftheBlack@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, back in uni I used to do one with my friends at least once a year. We'd get about 10 people crammed into a room with a monitor, bring an unhealthy amount of snacks, plan to start at 9am, have tech issues till 11 or 12, and then watch until midnight or 1am with a break for pizza in the evening. It was great.

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[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's like saying "I refuse to drink wines older than 2000." Just because it's old doesn't mean it's good. But, some of the old ones are very, very good.

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I watched Altered States for the first time a few years ago and that one got me more than most modern sci fi. It's a masterpiece imo.

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[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I find myself dreading watching anything made after 2010.

I'm not saying everything is bad, or that everything that was earlier was good. But dang...it seems like a good 90% chance the modern movie or TV show is just a bunch of flashy and disruptive CG, incredibly fast editing to try to compete with cell phones for attention, tons of with clips and one-liners. Everything is poorly lit, the dialogue is inaudible, and all the other sound is way too loud.

And I don't think it's just "things were better back when I was a teenager" bias. I can still find older movies with those some annoying traits earlier, 2010 is just the arbitrary cutoff I'm using here. And I can look back at movies from before I was born, like Hitchcock movies, and see how much better they are at handling a lot of those things.

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[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I know a woman in her thirties with that same rule. She won't watch the first Matrix movie.

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I finished rewatching all 6 movies yesterday and damn they are long. The last one is fuckin 4h long. But i still didnt have an attention span problem.

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[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Must suck not allowing yourself to enjoy anything from the past, and only allowing yourself to watch the slop they make today. There's so many great old shows and movies to pick from.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I was with you until you generalized contemporary movies. Great things were made back then and great things are made today. Same for shitty slop.

[–] DillDough@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You can literally listen to writers, directors, producers, and actors all talk about how cinema now is truly lower quality (including their own work) because it's specifically created to be a background not a center of attention. They specifically make shit for you to have on in the background while you scroll on your phone, this has drastically altered the quality of what is being filmed.

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[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 35 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

All the movies are older than me :3

[–] lime@feddit.nu 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i thought they released new movies all the time

[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Me too, but apparently they stopped after 2003 :3

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[–] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

At least LOTR has not been rebooted every 5-10 years like some Marvel/DC movies.

Even if there's probably someone itching to make a gritty reboot of LOTR.

[–] wieson@feddit.org 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, look at the source material. One's an epic saga the other's a monthly brochure at the magazine corner shop.
I guess, it fits.

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

LotR has been done a few times. The Peter Jackson one is just so good that no one wants to be compared to it though. I'd argue that even Peter Jackson's The Hobbit felt so bad because the LotR trilogy was so good. (It was also just bad, but the comparison made it feel even worse.)

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[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

It's still hilarious to me that CGI peaked with pirates of the Caribbean.

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[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 weeks ago

my lord that's depressing lol.

When people think something from 2014 is "old" i laugh in their face as I crank up my 1899 Edison victrola.

Even as a kid I never viewed something old unless it was 60+ years in the past.

[–] excral@feddit.org 22 points 2 weeks ago

That's such a stupid take. The 90s and early 2000s were literally the golden age of feature movies. IMDB has 58 movies rated 8.5 or higher, 24 of those were released in the 15 years between 1990 and 2004. That's about 41.4% and includes classics like Shawshank, Forrest Gump, Pulp Fiction and of course the LotR trilogy.

[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Damn...

Part of what makes the internet wonderful is being able to access movies from all eras. Why limit yourself to only new stuff?

As an aside, the OG Little Shop of Horrors still holds up IMO.

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[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, we had the Prequel Trilogy so I guess Peter Jackson probably needs to do an entirely unneeded Fourth Age Trilogy or something?

[–] ICCrawler@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Prequel even harder and pry the Silmarillion rights from the cold, dead bodies of the Tolkien Estate, then run it into the ground with new films, or worse, a TV show.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Better yet, don't pry the right, so you have to come up with entirely new stories and new characters outside of what you already own the rights to! It'll be great!

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[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago

Yet another “look at me being all young and shit! Aren’t I cute?” meme. So much traction from these recently.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Everyone should watch the AFI 100.

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