cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/39004845
We shouldn't be entertaining a bail out at all, regardless of any social systems being funded.
this post was submitted on 20 Nov 2025
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Who is "we"?
It seems like this is the usual ultra privileged people who violently control society under a fundamentally evil system.
That's not me and I doubt it's you.
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Came here to said the same thing. I get what she's going for but no, there shouldn't be a bailout at all.
If a government ever needs to bail out a company, that company should be rolled into the government as a utility or service, and its CEO/board should be released with no compensation, and barred from holding similar positions for 10 years.
The bank bailout, airline bailout, automotive bailout, mortgage bailout, etc., should have all been rolled into the federal government, or been completely shut down. If you run your business so shittily that you cannot function without a government bailout, then that business shouldn't exist.
You're overcomplicating things. There's no reason for a bailout in an ostensibly capitalist economy, period. I appreciate your comment but bailouts shouldn't exist at all
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Socialized risk, privatized rewards.
I can feel myself being radicalized in real-time by the shamelessness with which they engineer the system to rob everyone not in their country club.
And by the video I watched this morning about who Jay Gould was and who Andrew Carnegie REALLY was.
And at least Carnegie built libraries, parks, and schools with some of his plunder. Modern capitalists don't even do that.
Carnegie was kind of like an earlier version of Bill Gates. Charitable in public to cover being as shitty as the rest of them in private.
Id like to watch this, have a channel name?
@DamonCassidy Why Billionaires HATE the Working Class. The Gould and Carnegie (mostly Gould) bit is only a small part of the video.
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If a business fails it fails. Period. No government aid.
If a business that fails is vital to the economy, it is still not bailed out. It is nationalized and turned into a government service. The people who drove it into failure get nothing (except possibly jail time if there was malfeasance).
Later, if there is someone who shows evidence of being able to run the business successfully, perhaps hand it off as a crown corporation for a bit to that person.
But at no point should failed businesses be given government money to keep them alive. That rewards massive failure only.
"But what about the workers there?"
Let the workers buy up the company.
That's another great option. Turn them into worker-owned syndicates.
Seeing that more and more in my area. I love seeing Worker-Owned.
The rich don’t like that she breathes air.
But AI is critial to the rise of Idiocracy!!
The computer did that auto layoff thing!
You are an unfit mother. Carl's Jr believes no child should go hungry. Your child will now be placed into the custody of Carl's Jr. Carl's Jr: Fuck you! I'm eating!
In my lifetime, i've bailed out the housing market, the auto industry, the airline industry, and probably something else they hid from the media.
I refuse to help bailout these crappy AI companies that just steal from everyone and want to take jobs away from hard working americans.
Unfortunately it's not your choice to make. A guy who couldn't manage to run a casino, literally an infinite money hack, is running the show. I wouldn't put much faith in him if I were you.
Oh its better than that.
The casino was being run brilliantly.
by his wife
and in his petty, infinite jealousy, he kicked her out, and ran the casino... as you said, an infinite money printer, into the ground.. because he couldnt stand his wife being successful.
That's the least shocking thing I've ever heard
A guy who couldn’t manage to run a casino...
after multiple attempts*
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Ahahah, like you have a choice
don't forget trillion dollar wall street bailout, or the multi trillion dollar covid bailout.
or the ppp loans which went to republican allies who didnt need them, used them for anything but paycheck protections, and never paid them back, which is a bailout in everything but name.
and Silicon Valley Bank, two years ago
Remember that these CEO's are the ones (along with their pay-for talking heads in the media) that will, with the zeal and energy of a pentecostal minister on crack, tell us all that socialism will destroy innovation, reward the lazy, and put a bigger burden on the middle class tax payer. All while doing everything their bank accounts can do to build a system where they get more and more of our tax money - because of reasons.
I still don't (figuratively) understand why the government has to subsidise a capitalistic system. Risk is a part of it, so why not embrace it? Is it because they're too rich to fail? Why is that reserved for the poors?
because all that talk of "risk" and "effort" is propaganda.
they're just making up excuses to why they are on top and why we should stay at the bottom. they actually take no appreciable risk, while we have to if we want to make a real investment.
At the very least the government should then own part of the companies they bail out. If they are so essential and unable to stay afloat on their own...
The car manufacturer bank bailout was treated as a loan. They did technically pay the government back+interest.
yes, and in most sane countries that's exactly what they do
Because they are “too big to fail” because we have lack of regulation allowing for monopolies controlling vital infrastructure and aspects of society and government.
They have the money to be able to change the rules and the lack of morality to be willing to change them.
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AOC bailed out the rail industry when she voted against the rail unions that wanted to strike.
Actually, was that a senate vote? I thought it was an executive action.
AIPAC/Billionaires donor keep her and BERNIE and by extension crockett from gaining any significant influence in the party.
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The rich won't care what some phony politician said... They'll still get their bailout.
exactly what i was thinking. no one will stop a possible bailout except the us people.
and the us people doesn't seem interested in this effort.
Stop bailing out corporations. “Free market “ means fail and imprisonment of everyone who is committing white collar crimes including politicians and billionaires
Don't worry, it won't be "entertained", it will simply be done
And then the bailout money won't go to saving these shiny turd companies, it'll all go to the CEOs and founders and that's about it
I demand my economy be based on the ability of computers to generate images of comically obese men farting on each other!
So you're saying there's a bailout
There was at least a coherent rationale for the GFC bank bailouts - if you let parts of the finance system collapse a) real people lose lots of savings, and b) it might destabilise the whole system, and cause a domino effect (not saying I agree with it)
That rationale doesn't apply for AI (though there will certainly be investment banks that collapse, I guess)
Bailout for what even? There's no plan for ever having profitability and the amount of jobs directly working on AI is miniscule compared to the amount of jobs displaced by AI.
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