TBF Mussolini was not well liked in Italy and after he died he was not respectfully sent off.
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Grandma was supporting fucking "gugu gaga" movement in the 1940, did you think she was born in fucking 1918?
People's average age is about 44 in Italy, while a generation in the second half of the 20th century lasted about 29 years there.
So for two generations:
44+2*29=102
So the grandma of the average Italian would have been 17 years old in 1940 and thus was not born in 1918, but in 1923.
No "gugu gaga", but still quite young.
On average.
Mine was born in 1939, definitely in "gaga gugu" age at the time, and she's considered old as grandmas go. When talking to someone somewhere around my age (the likes of which I'm more likely to have a conversation, especially about cooking), I can expect their grandma to be less than a decade older than mine. So still very young at the time.
My grandmas were bom in 1914 and 1908.
So together with your value, 1923 sounds somewhat realistic.
I am not Italian, tlough. :-)
1915 and 1907 here, and I’m mid 30s
How old are you? I’m late 30’s and my dad was born in 1943. Not sure when my grandma was born but she must have been in her twenties when she had my dad, because he’s the youngest of five. So there are definitely people in their thirties or forties who have a Italian grandmother who actively supported the fascists.
Your dad had you in his mid 40s which is pretty late to have a kid, especially the further back you go. I'm early 30s and my grandmother was born in '46
Sure. I didn’t say it’s common. Just that someone who is in their thirties or forties and have a fascist supporting Italian grandma surely must exist.
Shooting fascists and risking everything for liberty. We should all follow her example. That also means you don’t break the pasta.
To me, breaking spaghetti is just a big sign that someone is a novice at cooking. It's done because the person thinks they can't fit them in the pot and are too inexperienced to know that the noodles will soften enough in just a few seconds to push them the rest of the way in.
It's less "My Italian ancestors would be horrified" and more "Do you know what you're doing? Would you like some help before you ruin whatever dish you're trying to make?"
Or maybe they have kids who have trouble eating full length spaghetti
Or they want an effortless-to-eat meal, not having to choose between getting all dirty and spending more time rolling the damn pasta on the fork than eating
Then buy differen pasta, maybe? :p
or just break em :p
Or we’re adults who still haven’t quite figured out how to properly and appropriately wrap long spaghetti around a fork. 30+ years on in life, and I still end up dropping noodles and wearing sauce splatters when I try.
In b4 someone comes along and says sKiLL iSsuE. Yes, it is a skill and it is an issue. It’s also why I prefer rotini, or other small pastas.
In fact I’m starting to think I should just use chopsticks with spaghetti, as I have no problem eating ramen and lo mein that way.
I can eat spaghetti “properly” but it’s also painfully slow. If I’m somewhere in public there’s no way in Hell I’m ordering spaghetti because I don’t want to be eating like 30+ minutes later than everyone else.
I wouldn’t say I eat slow by any means (generally speaking) but it seems like people these days can’t wait to shovel down food fast enough so I’m already at a disadvantage from the start.
You honestly believe breaking the pasta has a chance of ruining it? Lol
more like a rule of thumb, if they don't know how to cook the most simple and easiest thing to cook, what else will they fuck up.
horror story, was studying for finals at a friend's place, and his wife cooking dinner... I know because the first thing I hear is the spaghetti being snapped in half, them she boiled them for 40 minutes before dumping a cold jar of sauce and no cheese... Couldn't focus on studying, that was torture
Look I'm not one to go around pointing out how people on the internet just tell lies but if this is the story you're going to use to paint people who break their spaghetti as ignoramuses who not only can't cook but will actually fuck it up...
his wife didn't boil anything for forty minutes because there would be no water left well before then
ok, if you want more specific details, she boiled them for like 10, then left them in the hot water soaking for half an hour.
I can use a slightly smaller pot if I break the spaghetti
“Ruin” lmao also 0 difference to my tastebuds
In our case, it's a sign that my kids struggle with extra-long noodles. We're letting them get used to scooping with a fork before worrying about much longer strands.
I have cooked pasta 100s of times and I prefer it broken. Long pasta in annoying when you twirl it on a fork since you get often too much too little.
Also nice that the cooking is standardised so you can test a single pasta and know it's a representative sample.
And if your pot size is small, it takes a lot longer than a couple of seconds to soften enough to push it in.
The 99% is always batshit. Sanity is only found in the niches.
Hiding us allies in the same house the germans occupied (our house). Now please put down those spaghetti you burger freak.
My grandparent was hiding from the Nazis with their family, as a child?
They also were pushed to stay in the US because Italy wasn’t exactly great postwar, either. Unfortunately here is a more explicitly fascist hellhole now, too.
We also ate broken spaghetti growing up. It’s fine.
Whenever someone says a person who isn’t eating the thing I’m making has an opinion I’m like ‘good thing I’m not feeding it to them’
Like cmon. if someone makes something they like and I’m not there to eat it/they aren’t making it for me, they shouldn’t give a hoot what I think. More power to them. Why and how even is this an argument ever anyways.
A lot of people get weirdly aggressive about other people "eating food wrong".
Try saying "actually, sometimes as a treat, when just cooking for myself, I quite like eating pasta with just a little salt and a little butter, or maybe a little grated cheese on it" in front of a group of people...
"YOU SHOULD PUT SAUCE ON IT"
"WHY AREN'T YOU HAVING A SAUCE"
"YOU CAN GET PRE-MADE SAUCES QUITE CHEAP, IT DOESN’T COST MUCH MORE JUST TO ADD A SAUCE"
That's just pasta bianca, a valid and well known Italian dish.
I did not know that. Thank you! It's good to have a response next time the Sauce Mafia descend upon me.