as consumers looked for greater flexibility in managing their holiday budgets
Yea, that's a really nice way to put it.
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as consumers looked for greater flexibility in managing their holiday budgets
Yea, that's a really nice way to put it.
Remember kids: someone is making money off of this, and it’s not you. There’s a reason some European countries have (started to) put this BNPL under strict credit regulation.
I'm glad at least some countries are taking notice.
The Dutch national Financial Authority, for example, has a good explanation on why this is problematic and what exactly will happen per November 2026: https://www.afm.nl/en/sector/actueel/2025/juli/pb-marktupdate-BNPL-2025
A legally required age verification will be introduced. We want this to take effect as soon as possible to prevent minors from using BNPL.
Wait, it's legal to put minors into debt in the Netherlands? In Sweden, a minor wouldn't be liable to pay any such invoice, as minors can't sign any legally-binding agreements without their guardian's consent.
So last year there was 40 million less in consumer debt generated over the shopping days? Am I mathing that right?
Just for 'buy now pay later', but yes
How does buy now pay later compare to credit cards. Like everyone used to have those, have they given out less, or is that staying the same/more?
BNPL generally has far less consumer protection than CCs. It's also vastly easier to access BNPL services as they're typically inserted into the payment process online, and don't do a very good job of informing consumers of things like repayment terms and interest charges.
There's definitely a case to be made that they deliberately target those who are less financially aware who are most vulnerable to predatory lenders pushing them into unmanageable debt.
It is worse as they don't report when you are paying the loan unlike credit card. They only report that you paid it off. So it just messes with your credit score.
It's fucked but with a charitable view, I can see some logic.
For all the nonsense, there are a handful of good deals on the Friday/Monday. If I were living paycheque to paycheque, seems like a bnpl scheme could let me budget say, November to February for christmas gifts, interest free unlike a credit card.
That being said, that's the theory. I imagine a lot of folks end up in over their heads much like credit cards etc.
Paypal had a 20% cashback thing going on when you use BNPL. I'm sure that contributed.
This is why I used it.
0% apr plus 20% back I mean come on!
Damn, that's a pretty decent deal for a big purchase.
Man, say what you will about credit cards, but at the very least with many of those you get rewards of some sort. BNPL is just the consumer version of the payday loan; you get nothing but the scam.
The rewards are there to keep you make them money.
Some one has to pay for the rewards and the multi billion dollar companies usually don't give money away for free without some plan. In the end, the consumer pays for the rewards because they add it on the product price.
Yeah, the card issuers are already making bank from the interchange/issuer/processing fees, as well as interest if the customer eventually isn't able to pay their full balance in time.
But if you're a perfect person and always pay your full balance every month, there's literally no negatives with a credit card as a normal consumer. It's usually even a better alternative, as if something goes wrong, a credit chargeback is much quicker and easier than a debit chargeback.
Idk, I do them when there is no interest involved. Like my credit card I only do it when I have the money though.
For what reason? Am I missing out on something?
Seems like it's better to just pay now if you have the cash.
I got a car loan once even though I had the cash to buy outright. I didn’t want to drain my savings and end up high and dry if there was an emergency. It was worth it to me to pay a little interest so I still had a cash buffer.
If I were living paycheck to paycheck like many folks are, I imagine the logic would be similar for smaller purchases.
Assuming you need to buy the product, taking on zero interest debt gives you greater liquidity that you can theoretically activate elsewhere to improve your cash flow. For the amounts and time scales of BNPL, though, I don’t entirely see the point.
For the ~~amounts and time scales~~ hard inquiries of BNPL, though, I don’t entirely see the point.
FTFY
Eh, mostly just because less money coming out of my account at once feels better and there isn't a downside really. It's mostly like Amazon's pay in 4 etc, especially if I think there is a chance I might return it. I would not ever not pay it off and incur fees. Its nothing special, I don't touch afirm though generally just Amazon and paypals short duration things.
if you have the cash
And there's your answer.
What happened to look through the fingers
How is that an answer? They said they only do it if they have the money, so why?
Are many of them no interest?
I'm not a BNPL user, but my understanding is that most are interest free (to attract more users) unless a borrower is late/misses a payment.
I assumed that was the trap, or retroactive interest. Just seems to prey on those already at financial disadvantage.
The BNPL company also charges the merchant much more than a credit card company does. Something like 6%. So they’re also making money on people who do pay in full at 0%.
The theory goes that the merchant is happy to pay the higher rate because it makes a sale happen that otherwise wouldn’t. Unfortunately that increased cost just gets added to the price everyone pays.
PayPal Pay In 4, Paypal 12 months (sometimes), Amazon Affirm, all no interest. Unless you miss the payment. Then bend over for it. Interests rates vary from 8 percent to 32 percent retroactive, depending on who you get it through. I've used BNPL several times, but always made sure I can afford the payment in the monthly budget, and only when it is zero interest.
In addition, I have the rule of "only one active BNPL at a time".
Cyber Monday is funny because it started with people buying things at work so it wouldn’t show up in their shared computers’ browser history, and now it’s like a whole made-up thing
Capitalism never misses an opportunity to exploit consumers.
Dodge v. Ford says so
who’s being exploited here?
U.S. Consumers can you not read the title?
I do know that while I was getting all the family Christmas shopping done with Black Friday I saw a few buy now pay later offers. Most prominent was Pay Pal. The offer was if you use their buy now pay later feature with zero interest, they give you 5% in PayPal cash (whatever that means). I saw it several times, so I figure people were jumping on that
We are a sentient ponzi scheme.
When I was younger and was just freshly moved out, I used BNPL 0% interest a lot (iirc it was Newegg, was like 15 years ago). It was kind of necessary to get a computer and I had just got an RA contract that paid stipends monthly, guaranteed for 5 years.
If you already have money and can get 0% interest, you can reinvest that cash as long as you can guarantee a payoff (set reminders!). You can put that $2,000 in a CD for that exact amount of time, too, and earn yourself back 3%-4%. That said, they might have caught onto my grift cause they usually offer 5% back OR 0% interest, lol.