Companies keep doing this to shed workers and don't seem to realise the "rockstar" workers you want to keep are the ones who walk because they have options
All you're doing is retaining the trapped and shit skilled
this post was submitted on 09 Sep 2025
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It's an epidemic of "how do we cut staff by 15-20% without paying millions in severance" with no regard to what it means for the company beyond the next four fiscal quarters.
“Sure I can come in, I’ll just be constantly late”
They’re gunna pay that fuckin’ severence.
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To where? To Microsoft Office?
Sorry I’ve switched to libreoffice
Literally never heard of it. Are you talking about Microsoft 365 Copilot, formerly known as Microsoft 365, formerly known as Office 365?
“Did you say we will all benefit from an OpenOffice plan?”
Unironically, this was exactly how the announcement at my old company went. Literally, someone getting paid millions of dollars a year basically saying "Yeah we made this decision on vibes alone"
"Vibe Executing" is apparently how alot of CEO's do their jobs. They didn't know how to gauge productivity before the pandemic and they still don't. They just pull whatever sounds good out of their asses at any given moment.
Same here, this exact conversation happened.
In every meeting where feedback is requested since then, there is a permanent note that says “please no questions about RTO”.
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My office just did the same thing. And the backlash is enormous. No one wants it. No one likes it.
Mine did it for about 1 month. Management was patting themselves on the back. Then they literally went on vacation...and we all just did hybrid/remote like we did before.
The individual who was pushing for remote work got their optics and now we are all back to what we were before. Win/win!
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Just silently grumping about it isn’t backlash. Backlash is a whole team just walking off, or a picket line around campus. Backlash is their precious stock price tanking because the whole on-call team called their bluff and the service is offline. They know no one will do that in this fascist hellscape of an economy, so they don’t care.
Though I’m not sure it’s ’everyone’. I personally, vastly prefer in person work to remote, but I understand my views aren’t universal, or even common.
It's about what you support rather than what you currently are comfortable with. Do you support flexibility and future proofing your job against your personal life circumstances? Probably yes. Then you support flexibility of workplace.
My favorite was when I was at Amazon watching leadership do the mental gymnastics to justify the move. At some point they just said it’s happening and we’re not listening to you.
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We’ve looked at how our teams work best, and the data is clear: when people work together in person more often, they thrive — they are more energized, empowered, and they deliver stronger results.
Would be interested in seeing that data.
data = vibes
Translation: when there is no one to harass we can't look busy.
Better translation: we are just lonely and used to being able to pay people to be our friends.
Well you see, it's ✨magical✨ data that only executives can interpret. Us ~~lowly employees~~ ungrateful peons just wouldn't understand it.
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I have a video recording of the ceo in a company wide meeting saying he will not enforce rto as that ship already sailed and wr will stay remote. Then 2 months later, enforces rto in email selectively to people that are within 25 miles of an office. I then asked him and gave him the video asking him about why he lied and have a screenshot of his dumbass resppnse about things shifting and blah blah. Took him 10 minutes to write his 6 sentence long paragraph. God what a twat.
My company did the same thing. We called the president out on it too with the same result. After a year, they went back to remote work. You and your coworkers should keep bringing it up.
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Wow, that's insanely unfair (25 miles), never heard of that. Either there is value that everyone is in, or not.
Im waiting on my Co to pull this trigger too, jokes on them I'll just pop in for breakfast and then leave again
My company’s policy is 90 miles. I know people who have to drive 1.5 hours to work each way.
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The company making money from technology that allows people to work from home is telling people to return to the office.
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Layoff time.
They laid me off 2 months ago. I didn't even work for MS
So Microsoft's is casting about for something new because AI is not worth the money they spent on it, and management are all out of ideas? Better get the grunts back in their cubicles. Perhaps that will magically fix it. A managerial cargo cult move.
As per the Dead Sea Effect, they're looking to shed people without actually making them redundant.
As per the Dead Sea Effect, they're not going to shed the dead weight.
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Are it my management decisions that are wrong? No, it must be those lazy employees.
Microsoft says AI is more productive than workers. Microsoft says workers are more productive in the office.
AI is not in the office.
So do we bring AI into the office to make it more productive?
What I just read ? They return to office because thanks to AI they can move faster ?
I want the same drugs.
Oh look! Another navel-gazer unable to feel validated without seeing people's asses in chairs. That's gonna be awesome for the introverted type who take the most pride in really great code.
And this unhealthy preoccupation with asses is a bit of a red flag.
Fucking scumbags
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