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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's interesting to see the site treat it's unpaid workers more and more like low level employees. I guess capitalists just can't help themselves.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The mods under discussion are the ones that mod more than FIVE large communities. if those people haven't figured out a way to make that a paying gig, then they're doing it wrong.

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What kind of meat stick would do this? I still just literally cannot understand why someone would put themself in this position, no matter how entrenched into their parents basement they are, or how bad they smell.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

There's a robust reddit advertising ecosystem that exists. While much of that starts with standard "buy an ad that doesn't scream that its an ad" stuff, things like doing an AMA or engaging with users or trying to co-opt user content are all in the mix.

Mods who can approve posts from advertising accounts, block or remove criticism, and even block posts from competitors can gatekeep messaging could, if they were dickbags, stand to make a decent amount of money for it if all the communications comes from sidechannels. /r/hailcorportate always sot of found the line between astroturf advertising and genuine brand worship by idiots, and it's intentionally messy so it's hard to tell what's what.

Even buying and selling of old accounts is a thing. Buying and selling of upvotes from bot accounts, etc. The whole platform is manipulated unless it's a small niche sub.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Speaking as a former top 1%er redditor... figuring out how to do it and being willing to do it are two completely different things.

Life would be so much easier if I lacked basic human ethics. :)

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

See? And now you can wear that "former" as a badge of honor.

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[–] SkaraBrae@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

"Man, I wish I didn't have a moral compass. I would have so much stuff!" - my brother after another coworker was fired for getting caught stealing.

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

All power to the owners. But go on suckers. Keep pretending you have power as mods.

[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 13 points 23 hours ago

Site is already broken

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Literally another attempt to appear legit by putting in place an easily circumventable rule.

So first they don't even check if mods are using alt accounts to moderate other subs but even if they do force it, it's so easy to click a button on your VPN and you are free to be anyone you want according to "Reddit Corps Super Advanced Security System."

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MRW someone posts about Reddit still being a shit community tolerating abuse on a downward arc from Advance Publications, to Mods (fuck Spez), to users.

"Hey guys, I heard about a poppin' new club! The cover is only $10, but bouncers get to backhand anyone anytime they feel like it, and kick you out anytime that you advocate support for anything even slightly left of center." /s ᕕ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ᕗ

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've been off Reddit totally since 2023, so part of my understanding may be out of date, but before that I was on for many years and watched how powermods became powermods.

Thus this situation is very unusual. Reddit never did anything about the powermod situation before, but now, suddenly, it's a big deal. For years (over a decade, at least) users have been screaming about the worst abuses on the site being from powermods, and time after time Reddit bent over backwards to not only avoid doing anything about it, but seemed to grasp every opportunity to enhance the problem any way they could, shutting down complaints rather than the power trippin' bastards that were regularly creating the problems.

Note that powermods very frequently mod the largest subs, which is how they became powermods to start with: modding a sub that got big and then being invited to help mod new subs that then also grew in popularity.

For myself, I don't think anyone would give two shits if "powermods" only had an aggregate total of 500 users each, but very frequently they have millions, even tens of millions. Looking at the largest subs on the site and the powermods on those subs, and how many of those powemods are crossovers on equally dominant subs, you see the same core group of powermods across all the top sites, give or take a few individually here and there.

Strangely, this is the group Reddit is now disbanding.

Another thing to consider is how many powermods went on to become admins over the years. At least a handful: I don't know the exact number anymore but it's non-zero. Powermods who are admins are especially useful to Reddit, because they ensure that the c-suite has direct control over some of the largest subs without ever appearing to do so.

All this is to say that the powermod situation has been mutually beneficial to Reddit admin for ages, which is why they never changed it or even really acknowledged it.

But now, for the first time since 2005, Reddit powermods are suddenly a problem. So what's changed? Cui bono?

My guess is that Reddit admin is about to a) yank the entire site to the hard right by removing pretty much all effective human moderation and thus preventing powermods from being able to stand in their way across the largest subs (some of which we've already seen and the article addresses), and/or b) introduce some other vile change or policy that is certain to piss off EVERYONE, including every non-bot mod on the site, to the point that admin expects a general revolt even among the powermods and need to dilute the individual power of mods in advance.

One very hypothetical change that could do the trick is Reddit forcing mods, including powermods, to quietly engage in collecting evidence of and reporting users and content that admin would like to sell to the current US admin, for example: intel which Reddit is well situated to provide and for which the current administration has already been calling in the wake of a certain recent death. What if Reddit decides to go all in with the present political trajectory, looking for political power as well as the payout they're usually in it for, and in so doing force mods to comply or lose their subs? It's not like Reddit hasn't already done it for less.

Again, these are just my own musings. But whatever the reason, Reddit admin calling it quits with the powermods suggests something much larger than just another light rehabbing of Reddit power structures.

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[–] mereo@piefed.ca 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Piefed/Lemmy/Fediverse: freedom from capitalist tyranny. True organic, human communities.

Reddit is cyberpunk. It's a world governed by a corporation that acts as its government and only cares about its shareholders, not its citizens.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Break it hahaha! Fuck that place!

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