The media is owned by the first group
this post was submitted on 05 Dec 2023
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Even the independent or non-profit media sources that have a lot of credibility and seem generally pretty chill will fall back on this every now and again.
You see it anytime you hear people talking about division or hyper partisanship "on the rise" in that clinical, abstract way that sounds objective. It's always in a discussion about the current state of "discourse", and it's nearly always remarked on like the story is the spike in "disagreements", and not about what the disagreements are actually about.This pervasive idea that somehow people being upset about the current state of affairs and the rise of actual fascism is some kind of aberration.
Like "Gee, people sure are arguing a lot these days. Boy howdy, they're sure a feisty bunch, aren't they?" Women literally had their right to an abortion taken away from them, we had armed fascists storming our God damn capital on the word of a President and current candidate, we had thousands die to a preventable illness because of rampant misinformation and right wing individualist propaganda, and still you hear this tone that people being really angry right now is weird.
Fucking Kurkusagst, a channel I have a lot of respect for, just the other day dropped a video blaming social media on the mounting political and social divisions in our country, and implying all will be well if we just stopped using big media platforms. Social media is definitely part of it, but anyone seriously acting like it's the primary reason people are fucking pissed right now has to be some well-off straight white man, because the rest of us have some pretty damn good reasons to be pissed. I don't need Twitter or Reddit or Facebook to make me angry, I just need to be paying the fuck attention.
It's insulting to every women, every LGBT person, every non-white person, and every single person struggling to make a living right now to imply "social media is just getting us riled up."
Can you share that video/channel? I couldn't find Kurkusagst in any searches
https://youtube.com/@kurzgesagt
Kurzgesagt - I heavily support what they do and have purchased from their shop multiple times. I have not watched the new video however.
Oh I love these videos! I actually was already half through the social media one already and had lost it in my history. Thanks for reconnecting me 🙂
It doesn't really seem that way. I only ever hear about how evil Republicans are and how starving and precious the Democrats are. I think you're all fucking stupid for thinking stances on subjects need to be clumped together in categories. I want universal healthcare, basic income, and the right to carry a gun for the next time police come to wreck my life over a false accusation made by a violent asshole!
Do things typically go well for people who use firearms against police? Is this some sort of crazy shit that I’m too Canadian to understand?
Very definitely not if you're black. Two famous cases of police murder- Breonna Taylor and Philando Castile involved legal gun ownership and use. The former involved her boyfriend shooting at police because he thought they were home invaders. They didn't care.
You ever read one of those heartwarming stories about a woman who paid somebody's medical debt?
I've actually got no idea where you're going with this, so I'll bite. Yes, I've heard stories like that.
I mean if you're still supporting Republicans you're kind of the problem.
If you still believe the Democrats are going to come through on universal healthcare or free college, you're also part of the problem.
No one is deluding themselves into thinking that will happen. The alternative, voting for Trump, however, is unacceptable.
Fortunately, that isn't the only alternative.
Vote Green.
And one side will win because they'll convince everyone that the other side costs too much, and don't you just fucking hate them anyway?
and people like OP think everyone fits neatly into either group.
IDK what the fuck you guys have been watching for the last two months. I've been watching a genocide unfold with unaninmous bipartisan support. If you can see that and don't think both parties are beyond redemption, you're part of the problem.
I'm assuming we're talking about the actual parties/politicians here, not the people.
Oops! It looks like you've exposed the truth behind the DNC and their "nothing will fundamentally change" platform. Sorry but all the political realistsTM are about to swoop in and accuse you of supporting trump now.
Literally 2 minutes after you posted, they did.
Lol yes and downvote swarm. DNC shills are a predictable bunch.
Hey that's not fair, as part of fascism they also want healthcare (for the right people) and education (that reinforces their prejudices).
Haha don't forget moderates.
"We should listen to both sides, I mean nazis and fascists had good ideas too!"
I think it's a mistake to call them moderates. The "moderates" in the US have gone to great lengths to brand themselves this way, but really they are neoliberals who have bought into every aspect of conservatism except maybe the most depraved social views from the alt right, which they excuse as "just an opinion". They love to play both sides and act like they have some moral/intellectual high ground because they consider "both sides" when really they are already waist deep into right-wing ideology.
Exactly. Whenever this conversation comes up I ask for people to give me Republican policies presented and pushed that aimed to help the middle class??
Other than tax cuts for the rich the Republican party has ZERO ideas on how to tackle anything that would help the average American. Healthcare? Nothing. Gun control? Nothing. Climate change? Nothing. Infrastructure? Nothing. Jobs? Trickle down give tax cuts to the rich that'll solve it! Sure it hasn't worked the last 40 years now but just more tax cuts for billionaires bro!
It's insane there's even a handful of people who think republicans are anything but self serving fascists that would step over corpses to enrich themselves even marginally at the expense of anything and anyone else.
Yet here we are, it's an actual debate, it's like children who refuse to admit they stole that candy from the store.. Children. Vile, fat, rich, spoiled, semi-conscious, thoroughly uneducated, self entitled, racist, backwards, moronic children. Hundreds of millions of them.
One side wants to break up families, abolish free speech, trans kids and make everyone attention slaves to big companies. The other side just wants freedom and happiness
(I dont accually believe this, just how the opposite side would make the same tweet) You cant believe the world is this black and white 💀
As someone who is not from the US I have to say: this "meme" is very biased and one sided. Most of you do not even understand how one sided it is. You are taking your moderate opinion and comparing it with the most extreme opinion of the other side. If the other side did this they would say:
One side just wants that they stop killing babies
The other side wants to brainwash children into mutilating their own bodies.
I personally enjoy killing babies early in the morning and save their blood for the evening, i d hate that to stop