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    [–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago (6 children)

    What does that even mean. Whoever said that just uttered some empty but smart sounding catch phrase. Such is all the talk about the wonders of Ai

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    [–] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    They already have a solution to the Trusting trust attack thanks to DDC and live-bootstrap’s work.

    https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2023/the-full-source-bootstrap-building-from-source-all-the-way-down/

    [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Mmh… but this concept only fully works on Open-Source hardware, doesn't it? Otherwise the microcode or CPU itself could still be an attack vector to infect the bootstrapped compiler?

    (Genuinely curious, I have no clue)

    [–] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

    That would be the deeply classified Nexus Intruder Program that no one has yet solved. Which would be hardware that infects software that in turn infects the next generation of hardware.

    [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago (16 children)

    It's a tool, use it where it works and don't where it doesn't.

    [–] xyguy@startrek.website 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    People probably say that about asbestos too.

    [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

    And they'd be right

    [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Of course, it still has uses. Just not in home insulation.

    [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

    Your comment is so fit for purpose, displaying such a massive willful ignorance about the world in general. Because the biggest problem with asbestos wasn't using it for home insulation. It killed millions of workers in manufacturing plants and mines. Its biggest industrial use case was for electrical insulation of high voltage transmission lines. Where it also killed hundreds of thousands of technicians in the us alone. Before that it was used for lamp wicks. Where it killed at least a couple of millions more over a century. Today, asbestos kills 250 thousand people a year, 12 to 15 thousand in the us every year.

    I supposed any tool can be considered useful if you're ignorant enough about it or if you're willing to lie without remorse.

    And then your boss says: "Use it for everything or you're fired. Why are you using less tokens than anyone else? You must be more productive or else..."

    [–] Ooops@feddit.org 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    It’s a tool, use it where it works and don’t where it doesn’t.

    But that doesn't work with the people creating AI as they are totally dependent on the believe that AI can do absolutely everything (and an artificial general intelligence is just moments away...) to justify they insane investments. So they will make up a million stupid narratives why some people are "actually" not using AI as it obviously can't be because of AI shortcomings...

    [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    If the tool don't work then don't use it. I wouldn't try to unscrew something with chopsticks

    [–] Ooops@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago

    You are probably also one of those insane ideologues that refuse to hammer in a screw for some reason, although you know how well that hammer worked on nails... πŸ˜‚

    [–] AudaciousArmadillo@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Na, fuck that shit. Just don't use it.

    [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Why? Do you have that feeling towards other algorithms?

    [–] AudaciousArmadillo@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
    [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago (8 children)
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    [–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Pmuch this.

    How do they feel about machine language translations? It's been "AI" (ML model) since the late 90's.

    Traffic prediction?

    Medical scan data processing?

    And so so many more specific uses of ML models that have been a part of daily life for literal decades.

    Call out LLMs specifically.

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    [–] demizerone@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago

    AI or not to AI is the same stories I heard from old time machinists when cnc productivity came for that industry.

    [–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    not really related to the post, but NGL, it kinda fascinates me, how with the advent of LLMs, they became the ultimate punching bag for whenever something works bad, as if people didn't write even more horrible things without them (my regards to javascript and python).

    [–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Will share the down votes with you, because I think the same.

    Claude opus is better than a significant amount of people I've worked with, and it's still significantly cheaper when now. Mind, we are not professional developers, but we need to develop a lot a DS solutions.

    [–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org -3 points 3 days ago

    What even is a "professional developer"? I mean, given that you aren't an egg-headed RnD developing new technology for someone like Nvidia, the job of a developer is 95% mind-numbing routine and typical tasks solved by applying ready-made patterns.

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