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On loving / hating America. (lemmy.starlightkel.xyz)
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I've been thinking about this amped up conservative rhetoric that liberals and leftists hate America. We all know that's BS. Right? Except it's not, and we should respond to it for what it is.

"I love an America I grew up in. I love an America I believe in, that I lived most of my life in. Now, the idea of America that you're fighting and "winning" for is killing that America I live in, that I love. So you're right. I hate what you imagine America to be... because it is trying to murder the America that I love. And I don't use the word "murder" lightly, and I apply it to you. And if that means to you that I hate America... then you're right! The America you believe in isn't lovable."

That's all.

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[–] Edie@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

No it wouldn't. The USSR after 1945 helped countries free themselves from the under the boot of imperialism. China hasn't been at war since 1975, and is helping build up countries. Just because america is imperialist doesn't mean every country would be.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The USSR were not good guys. China suppresses and murders their own citizens. They aren't good guys. I feel like you're not making a good argument here. But I think you'd be hard pressed to find a country that didn't exploit its power at the detriment of other nations, and while I'm less confident including their own citizens, no counter examples come to mind.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So you're just an ultra-nationalist

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