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Gonna get downvoted but fuck this.
The IDF is terrible, the Israeli government is terrible, it is genocidal and there is no excuse for that.
Yet, the IDF is mandatory for all 18yo in Israel, meaning that you could be completely against the IDF and the government, and still be in the IDF.
Imagine being an 18yo who sees the genocide, understands the that Israel is in the wrong, and is now forced to join the army that is in the process of a genocide, and immediately receiving a gun. Fucked up situation that might even lead someone to suicide, especially if maybe you are already in a dark place.
My point is that there are IDF soldiers that are absolutely genocidal, the IDF as an army is horrific, but because of mandatory conscription you can't treat it the same as a voluntary army where people choose to be there (kinda, poverty and propaganda can often make it more complex)
Just as I wouldn't celebrate the suicide of a Russian just because of what Russia is doing, I wouldn't celebrate the suicide of an Israeli just because they were forced to join the IDF.
I think that these mindless celebrations of death jist fuel the cycle of hatred. If you support a genocide I have no compassion for you, but a forced conscription is not a choice.
Your point misses that it is not mandatory and they could instead go to gaol for short period of time rather than commit genocide and murder babies.
Your point is bad and your should feel bad for running defense and trying to paint them as innocent and/or victims.
Firstly I couldn't find anything about "gaol" so I don't know what you mean...
Secondly, armies are mostly non-combatant soldiers, which can range from working on weapons to office workers. As fucked up as the IDF is, if you are forced to join it and become an office worker, you might not be free of fault, but you are far from committing a genocide or murdering babies.
You saw a word you didn't know and you didn't try a dictionary or search engine?
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=gaol
I did search for it, I guess that I over did the search terms and should have just searched the word itself. Thanks! Word of the day I guess!
If my approach to understanding was so flawed as to fail at looking up a word I would be deeply concerned about the quality of my thinking.
Ignore all the arguments I made and just focus on a single unrelated mistake?
mate, you can't even figure out what a word means. Everything you believe is suspect if your approach is that sloppy.
Fix your approach to learning, then form opinions.
Sure, very convenient for you to find one thing I did wrong and ignore everything else. I'm definitely the one with flawed logic...
I just thought that "gaol" is some hebrew word like idf or kneeset, so I searched with that assumption. Stupid mistake? Sure, does it make me an idiot that can't have valid opinions? No.
It actually does though.
You had a hanging question, and rather than try to resolve it in literally the most foundational way: do I understand what the words in front of me mean, let me examine them. You decided to forge on ahead.
It is a deeply flawed approach that speaks to disordered thinking and an education lacking in a systemic approach. This doesn't mean you're bad or whatever but it's like trying to make a chair by starting with the glue.
Fix your fundamentals
Every comment you make just cements my point further.
Why do you care about being right more than thinking well? I don't matter, whether you "own" me in some stupid discussion on a link aggregator for hideous freaks doesn't matter.
Your approach to learning is awful, you can fix it, why aren't you keen to?