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[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That is because it is buggy, I use windows 11 both at home and work. It is very unstable compared to Windows 10.

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Oh, you think its the bugs that are the main culprit? I have a CoPilot to sell you

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 230 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

It was possible to skip Vista and go straight from XP to 7. You could even use the same PC.

It was possible to skip 8 and go straight from 7 to 10. You could even use the same PC.

This time around, Microsoft is forcing Windows 11 as the only option, forcing people to throw away their machines, and it is backfiring on them. People are rejecting it and the competition (Linux) has never been as good as it is today.

The executive also noted that 500 million PCs don't meet Windows 11's system requirements

So much unnecessary e-waste. I never want to hear about how 'green' or 'sustainable' Microsoft is again.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Apparently some are even opting to reinstall Windows 7 rather than the trash fire that is 11. It seems like 10 was never loved, merely tolerated, and as MS continues to enshittify 10 in an attempt to force people onto 11 some are just going back to the previous good version of Windows.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Those people are stupid. Run a version of windows that won't make you part of a botnet and make you my problem or don't run it at all.

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[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anyone who asks me about this is getting the “At least try Linux for free first before buying a new computer.

Another example I have is that my mother-in-law is retired. You think she needs a new computer? Nope! She’s getting Linux before a new computer. The only other option for her would be an iPad since she’s just browsing the web anyway.

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 90 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Gee, I can't imagine why that could be.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Oh, I can think of a few reasons.

You know it's bad when even I switch to linux. I don't understand linux. I literally back up my entire hard drive everytime I attempt to do ANYTHING. Because I WILL screw up my whole system to the point it won't boot. I've done it many times over the coarse of the past year.

Then I gotta spend a whole day waiting for things to restore from backup. And then whatever I WAD trying to do, still isn't done.

That has been my experience using linux this past year.

But Windows 11? No.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Idk wtf you guys are doing.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Even my parents haven't screwed up the Linux Mint I set up for them to use. I'm super curious what in the world breaks it so bad that it doesnt boot.

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[–] vividspecter@aussie.zone 27 points 1 week ago

I think you need Bazzite in your life (or some other immutable distro). But hey, fucking things up and recovering from it is how I learned both Windows and then Linux so there are upsides.

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[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

"Why don't you like our copilot features?" -Microshit-

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[–] IonTempted@lemmynsfw.com 53 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Because Windows 11 shouldn't have been made in the first place, I can't find one reason why they couldn't just kept updating 10.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Beside greed, forcing people to use fully integrated AI. Cuz they know damn well that 90% of us will disable that shit like we did One Drive.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I don’t even think it’s greed at this point. As far as I know, no one is making money on AI. Even NVIDIA is cooking the books by investing in AI companies and just making them use the invested money to buy graphics cards. They report those as sales but are they really sales if they gave them the money in the first place?

I think the real reason Microsoft is shoving AI down everyone’s throats is because they went all-in on AI and they’re hoping to keep the bubble going for now and somehow it will work out in the end. It’s literally a fake it until you make it strategy with zero guarantee of making it.

A lot of it I think is just driven by managers with AI FOMO. They really don’t know what AI is supposed to do but they’re hoping users will figure it out.

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[–] Simplicity@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One good reason: so all of the fucking half ass obnoxious shit that have put into 11 didn't taint 10.

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[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I want to qualify this comment with the fact that I am not a super gamer. Most my games are older. The newest and most demanding game I play is Cyberpunk 2077. Most my other games are multiple years older and less demanding.

I finally switched full time to a Linux desktop OS. I have used Linux more or less daily for decades, the first distro I ever installed was Slackware what feels forever ago. But until Valve put the work into running games on linux for their Steam deck I felt I was trapped needing to have Windows to play games. I have even spent the last decade forcing myself to rely more and more on cross platform available FOSS dreaming of some day making a permanent switch. Honestly it was so easy for me to switch at this point, most games pretty much just ran. My biggest problem took a bit to grok and it was just because some games do not like running in proton from an NTFS partition. I have NVME and SATA SSDs separate from my boot drive that I used to install games on and it was trivial to reformat the NVME drive to a more Linux friendly filesystem and I have not had an issue since. Eventually I'll do the SATA drive but I'm lazy and those games are working fine so far. You will absolutely have problems with some games, especially some that have overbearing anti-cheat systems, but man this has been so easy I couldn't really have imagined. The only non-gaming problem was a document scanner we own that is not supported by SANE. I could not find a solution to run it on Linux so I just spun up a Tiny 11 copy of Windows in a VM and passed it through. We only use it a couple times a year so this is an acceptable compromise to me. The VM doesn't have Internet access, it just sees a local drive as a network share. All it can do is scan something and save it to the shared drive so I can access it in Linux.

I chose Linux Mint because I am well versed with Debian and Ubuntu. But I suggest anyone new to Linux give Bazzite a shot. It's designed to be a lot harder for you to break. It's also more optimized for gaming if that's your focus. For me gaming is a requirement but I've never felt the need for top tier performance.

The path from 3.1 to 11 has been such a sour one and the last thing I am willing to put up with is being the product in the eyes of my desktop OS. My computer is mine and it will do what I want it to do or it will do nothing at all.

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[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I would imagine a big reason being that windows 11 doesnt work on a ton of older systems which meant nobody upgraded to it and instead lived out the life of the hardware until they actually needed to buy something new. The crazy part to me is older systems wasnt even that long ago. I remember when 11 came out and saw a bunch of systems only 2 years old that weren't compatible. I said screw it and just forced it on them and honestly I have had no issues on about 3 different systems so whatever I guess.

[–] throws_lemy@reddthat.com 23 points 1 week ago

That makes sense. Upgrading your PC/laptop when RAM and SSD prices are skyrocketing is ridiculous.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (23 children)

Blows my mind seeing people look on windows 10 as some kind of last bastion, apparently not realizing that was Windows 7 at best.

10 is the one where they fucked up the UX beyond repair, made everything slow and added insane amounts of spying. If you willingly switched to 10 then don't pretend like 11 is a bridge too far now.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I still can't grasp that Microsoft, a $3.6 trillion company, developed a new settings interface but failed to migrate all settings to it, forcing users to use both. Even I know that's day one UX shite and I'm quite stupid.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This article is trash, it mentions existing windows 10 features in windows 11 like it's a groundbreaking new technology.

Virtual desktops and clipboard manager? Cmon man we've been having that for years now

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

having that for years now

since abaout the late 90's to early 00's. KDE 1 released with virtual desktops, and from what I can tell, Klipper either released with it, or a few years later

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[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 week ago

Obviously. There is no particular reason to switch from old 7th or older gen intel CPUs since with 16GB (or even with 8) of RAM one can browse internet and use OFFICE 365 with no issues. And what most of people do with their computers at work?

Unless PC is used to render 3D/Video/DAW Audio/heavy VMs - there is no fucking need to buy new PC just to upgrade to win11. MS shot themselves in a foot with this one.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah, it may be the decreased quality and increased openly aggressive data collection

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[–] lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's almost like "you have to buy a new laptop to install it and help train our AI on your private documents" is somehow not convincing enough. Maybe if they also removed local accounts and forced you to have an online MS account? Nah scratch that, it would be stupid

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago (13 children)

At some point, I need to get around to installing Mint on my desktop. Maybe this weekend, but probably not.

[–] Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago

It was extremely easy when I did it. Had everything running in 20 min. The real drag was me wanting to use a more efficient file system, so I spent a day converting my drives to ext4.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I use windows 10 at home while I use windows 11 at work. The only thing I like about windows 11 is tabs in the file explorer. Besides that I've had to deal with Windows Explorer crashing on a daily basis, task bar freezing completely multiple times a week, certain software straight up not working that I need to get work done, programs crashing that work perfectly fine on 10, internet connectivity issues (usually DNS for some fucking reason), periodically hearing the disconnect sound for a device even when everything is still working, awful drop down menus, needing to change the registry just to get basic features that 10 has, and the list goes on and on. At home everything just works. I've been testing Linux and have been getting better stability than Windows 11 and I feel like every week there's a new problem.

[–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I have to use Windows 11 for work. Maybe this is because of CrowdStrike or something, I don't know, but I often encounter a problem where the main section of explorer, where you can actually click files and stuff, just breaks. That entire region becomes unclickable and unusable, even though the rest of the Explorer window (like the icons on the top part) all still work. So I just have to close the window and then reopen Explorer, re-navigate back to where I was, and proceed from where I left off.

Never, in the decades I've been using computers, have I ever encountered something as stupid as this with this amount of regularity. Windows 11 is a uniquely bad OS compared to every competitor option, including prior versions of Windows.

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[–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (5 children)

My 78 year old mother bought a new laptop, windows 11.

Immediately I had to remote in because of some S mode BS which just put you in the MS only application environment.

3 months later and somehow she fubarred her login and can't use her new laptop. There's probably an easy fix, but since she hates windows 11 and wants to go back to 10, I suggested Linux.

So it will be a Merry Christmas for my mom when I visit and install IDK? Some version that's super simple. Anything is better than what she currently has

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

Can't go wrong with good old Linux Mint

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[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Because 8 was garbage and people got rid of it as soon as possible. 10 was actually good, and 11 was barely a change functionally until they started messing with the ads push, and now they're shoving LLM bullshit in to justify their exorbitant expenditures on the half functional tech.

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[–] nolikeymachine@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago

Couldn't imagine why lmao

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 18 points 1 week ago (10 children)

The executive also noted that 500 million PCs don't meet Windows 11's system requirements while the others don't need a hardware upgrade to run the OS. Although this would indicate that 500 million PCs would potentially be replaced with newer alternatives capable of running Windows 11 at some point, Clarke hinted at "roughly flat" sales for Dell PCs would moving forward . Clarke didn't explain the reasoning behind this statement , but it could mean that people are just not that interested in upgrading to Windows 11 PCs.

It's a simple reason. Everybody is abandoning dell in droves for lenovo in enterprise environments.

I used to buy dell exclusively for laptops across over a decade at multiple organizations where I determined hardware standards and purchasing. Everyone always wanted a x1 carbon or thinkpad but the prices were too high. This is no longer the case. Now everyone gets a thinkpad or x1 carbon where I work at least, and statistics for market share are heavily on the lenovo side now.

That's how I see it anyway. This has nothing to do with windows 11, it's just another service pack when you're managing everything via GPO/intune/sccm/whatever.

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[–] unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Even slower than Windows 10? That's impressive...

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean if you tell 50% of your client base they have to buy a new PC...

Especially, in the current economic climate.

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Windows 11 brings change but no significant features. The general population hates change.

[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Idk what you mean "no significant features". I definitely needed AI integration in notepad.exe.

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[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

What do you mean? Now I get the feature of not being to click on the clock on my second monitor to open the calendar! I had been waiting for that feature for ages.

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