This is a great way to drive users to competitors.
FYI https://www.deepseek.com/en and https://chat.qwen.ai/ don't have ads.
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If you're not paying, you're the product. Even on Chinese services. Alibaba does train my favorite local models though (Qwen).
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There needs to be laws like yesterday that force tools to disclose if responses are influenced by ads.
Deepseek here i come
And the enshitification cycle continues...
Do you think it’s possible to run the cycle too quickly? Like, shouldn’t you make sure your product has been ~~widely~~ maximally adopted first before you make it shittier?
May be that’s just hopium
Speedrunning exists already, so you could just apply that philosophy to tech startups.
At first, you’re good to your users. Once you have 10, you can start milking them with spyware and ads. This way, you’ll sacrifice the users in favor of the ad companies. Before the first quarter is over, you’re already milking the ad companies too. Once they get fed up with the ramped up prices, you can file for bankruptcy in record time!
AI is just soooo fucking expensive. Silicon Valley has made burning cash up front a standard practice, but the amount they're burning is just astronomical. There is going to be a demand for profits, or the path to profits, much sooner than usual.
yes, this is how bubbles pop
Well, you go as wide as you can, then try to cash in.
Looks like, given that porn and ads are both imminent, they think this is maximum adoption.
They're already getting sued over ChatGPT helping people commit suicide. Imagine the uproar once the advice comes with ads for rope, knives, etc...
Ublock origin. Hold my beer!
What if they bake the ads into the replies?
You think they haven't started that?
Possible. But I think they are required by law to label ads somehow.
I’m not surprised if current US administration changes that law in favor of big corps.
That law is a joke now anyway. Easily circumventable unfortunately.
*This chat may contain ads.
most likely someway to detect it and remove the elements.
Not if it's done at the semantic level. If they instruct the model to only mention this brand of pasta, and give it a few arguments why it's the best, it will gladly incorporate that in its response and you won't have any way to detect that.
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Haha yeah maybe there is hope, somehow. :)
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