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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fuck the EU overlords. They took our precious union of cultures and turned it into some totalitarian's wet dream. I hope they all have an aneurysm tomorrow.

[–] myrmidex@belgae.social 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It was never a union of cultures. It started as an economic union of Coal and Steel...

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it was a union of cultures on the level of ordinary citizens, when Schengen opened internal borders and we were no longer required to ask for work permits to move between countries. The leaders have always been corrupt pieces of human garbage, as I have to admit in hindsight.

[–] myrmidex@belgae.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Schengen is about free movement of goods and workers. You might infer cultures from there, but as soon as that culture is Syrian or Afghan, there is pushback, so I'm not sure a union of cultures actually exists here... Perhaps for a very limited subset of cultures, but I'm not sure that's something to be proud of, as that smells more of fascism than inclusion.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did I say I was proud of it? Pride is for fuckheads. I was happy to live in a European community for a while, and now I am ashamed of this "fortress Europe" full of police states and xenophobic populists. Obviously, cultures that were not present in the union in those days were not part of the union. Nowadays, they are, but the union has been fucked up.

[–] myrmidex@belgae.social 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I hadn't meant to accuse you of pride, it was a poorly chosen term to indicate whether 'union of a limited subset of cultures' is a positive thing (= something to be proud of). I had no idea it would cause offense.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A mix of any subset of cultures is a net positive compared to isolation from "others". It's impossible to jump straight from isolation to one big happy family world-wide. A "subset" that you seem to consider worthy of criticism is a necessary step towards a better future.

And I do take offense when people insinuate that I am proud of anything but my very own accomplishments, because pride in something you had no part in (e.g. patriotism) is among the most moronic sentiments mankind ever came up with.

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Rather those EU overlords than being under the thumb of US corporations.

Which would have been reality if those "EU overlords" didn't fight against them. The EU is the only reason we can fine Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Apple and other corporations. We would be like USA 2.0.

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

LoL

Our corrupt EU overlords have sold themselves to all those American corporations. ChatControl is just another example of that. Fuck them.

I think you are not following the news very attentively - those corrupt EU fuckers are currently working overtime to expose us completely to those very corporations that are so evil that I have no words to insult them as harshly as they deserve.

[–] sunbeam60@feddit.uk -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Agreed. The EU ain’t perfect, but I’d take it over any alternative.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago

Run only open source stack you can build yourself and self-host if it comes to the worst.