Biased how. Do the math. Half of us sit down to pee, all of us sit down to shit.
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Biased meaning only men have to do any work, women never have to (if it's left down always)
True neutral would be last used position.
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Also, as someone with male plumbing, we can also sit down to pee. So everyone can sit to pee, and half of us can't.
Especially with the men that complain about how hard it is to control the stream, might as well sit down.
But then they won't get to complain about how hard it is to lift the seat
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*most of us sit to shit. Given a large enough population I won't rule out the possibility.
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But like, if men pee with the seat up, but both men and women poop with the seat down, then statistically the seat is already down more than half of the time. Now if we enforce a policy like this, that would mean more than half of the times someone walks in and needs the seat to be down is in luck, but the rest has to do double the "work". And if someone goes in after someone who would have otherwise left the seat up, they too do double the work, so the seat changes position 4 times instead of once. I think it's much more "just" to simply change the seat whenever you need it and sometimes you will even find it in the position you need it in.
I poo standing up. You can't force me.
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I put the lid down, don't want toilet water splashing all over the place when you flush.
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Pooping is what unites us
Peeing while seated unites us
It seems like at least half of men can't aim anyway, so it's better to just sit down.
Even when aim is there, splashing occurs. It really shows that some men never had to clean their own bathrooms.
Also fuck you if you piss standing up in a stall when there's pissoirs outside.
You want privacy for your little weenie, sit your ass down and scroll on your phone like normal people do.
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Invent a new urinal and demand everyone use a shewee-like thing (for aim purposes). Now everyone can enjoy the satisfaction of peeing standing up and we can get rid of all gendered restrooms.
Now what, maga?
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Leave the seat down so when you flush you won't inhale your poop and pee.
Cmon it's not hard.
Edit: and lid.
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I don't really understand what is the end goal here. It isn't minimising the amount of total work done, because for this optimal strategy would be just leaving the seat in whatever position it was used. Funnily enough, amount of times it needs to be put up is exactly the same it needs to be put down in absolute terms, but considering the "up" group is smaller than "down group", their perceived amount of times position should be changed is higher than the same for the opposite group. I. e. in group of one "up" and 9 "downs", "ups" need to change position of lid with 90% probability, and for every "down" it's only 10%. Huh. Of course overall it equalizes: 1×0.9=9×0.1.
Or is it some kind of "welcomeness"? Like, leaving the lid in the most probable expected position (which for equal gender usage would be "sitting" because people sometimes poop, usually not while standing; and because penis people sometimes pee while sitting (me often, but usually at home, not in public)).
Or is it something else?
I've heard of someone who's mother died cuz they left the seat down and she just got stuck
Seriously? It’s sexism. Women shouldn’t be expected to touch filthy things.
Not my belief, but it’s the basis of the logic.
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Be careful what you wish for.