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archive.is link to article from allabout.ai at https://www.allaboutai.com/resources/ai-statistics/ai-environment/

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[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

I stopped l, not that I used it that much, about 5 months ago.

[–] AndiHutch@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago

It also pollutes the mind of ignorant people with misinformation. Not that that is anything new. But I do think objective truth is very important in a democratic society. It reminds me of that video that used to go around that showed Sinclair Broadcasting in like 20 some different 'local' broadcast news all repeating the same words verbatim. It ended with 'This is extremely dangerous to our democracy'. With AI being added to all the search engines, it is really easy to look something and unknowingly get bombarded with false info pulled out of the dregs of internet. 90% of people don't verify the answer to see if it is based in reality.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 14 points 2 days ago

The emoji usage, heading & bold text pattern makes me certain the article was written using AI.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 6 points 1 day ago

Bitcoin or crypto?

[–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Makes me wonder what they are doing to reach these figures.
Because I can run many models at home and it wouldn't require me to be pouring bottles of water on my PC, nor it would show on my electricity bill.

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, most of the carbon footprint for models is in training, which you probably don't need to do at home.

That said, even with training they are not nearly our leading cause of pollution.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 2 points 1 day ago

Article says that training o4 required equalivent amount of energy compared to powering san francisco for 3 days

[–] FatCrab@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

Most of these figures are guesses along a spectrum of "educated" since many models, like ChatGPT, are effectively opaque to everyone and we have no idea what the current iteration architecture actually looks like. But MIT did do a very solid study not too long ago that looked at the energy cost for various queries for various architectures. Text queries for very large GPT models actually had a higher energy cost than image gen using a normal number of iterations for Stable Diffusion models actually, which is pretty crazy. Anyhow, you're looking at per-query energy usage of like 15 seconds microwaving at full power to riding a bike a few blocks. When tallied over the immense number of queries being serviced, it does add up.

That all said, I think energy consumption is a silly thing to attack AI over. Modernize, modularize, and decentralize the grids and convert to non-GHG sources and it doesn't matter--there are other concerns with AI that are far more pressing (like deskilling effects and inability to control mis- and disinformation).

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Basically every tech company is using it... It's millions of people, not just us...

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Billions. Practically every Google search runs through Gemini now, and Google handles more search queries per day than there are humans on Earth.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 0 points 21 hours ago

Ew, who still uses Google Search?

[–] fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What is this masterpiece ? Pro-pornography subliminal propaganda ?

[–] maccam912@programming.dev 9 points 2 days ago (7 children)

What does it mean to consume water? Like it's used to cool something and then put back in a river? Or it evaporates? It's not like it can be used in some irrecoverable way right?

[–] morto@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

if they take the water and don't return to the source, there will be less available water in the water body, and it can lead to scarcity. If they take it and return, but at a higher temperature, or along with pollutants, it can impact the life in the water body. If they treat the water before returning, to be closest to the original properties, there will be little impact, but it means using more energy and resources for the treatment

[–] lime@feddit.nu 6 points 2 days ago

"using" water tends to mean that it needs to be processed to be usable again. you "use" water by drinking it, or showering, or boiling pasta too.

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[–] ReCursing@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago

It's using energy, we need more renewables. That's not a problem with AI. Direct your opprobrium where it belongs

[–] melfie@lemy.lol 1 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I have started using Copilot more lately, but I’ve also switched from plastic straws to paper, so I’m good, right?

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Why did you start using straws at all?

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