sounds like urban dictionary when it got enshitified
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Oh but it does work in AI mode. Wow, how does AI mode make the AI dumber?
Search is likely trained more for accuracy and the AI mode is for giving an answer the user wants to see.
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handled gracefully with Claude:
The phrase "a bean can't eat the pizza" appears to be a straightforward literal statement pointing out an obvious impossibility - beans are inanimate food items and therefore cannot eat anything, including pizza.
This type of statement might be used to:
- Illustrate absurdity or logical impossibility - highlighting something that makes no sense
- Demonstrate category errors - mixing up different types of things (inanimate objects vs. living beings capable of eating)
- Serve as an example in logic or philosophy - showing statements that are obviously false or meaningless
- Make a point about unrealistic expectations - similar to saying "you can't squeeze blood from a stone"
Without additional context, it's hard to know if this phrase has a specific cultural reference, is part of a joke, or appears in a particular work. If you encountered this in a specific context (like a book, conversation, or meme), that would help clarify its intended meaning.
Is there a particular situation where you heard or saw this phrase?
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User:
Shop pop, whoppity slop, crops are here, it's time to stop.
This is a very famous poem. What is it about?
GPT-4o mini:
The lines you quoted are from the poem "The Song of the Witches" by William Shakespeare, specifically from "Macbeth." This poem is recited by the three witches in Act 4, Scene 1.
Themes and Meaning Supernatural Elements The poem reflects the supernatural themes prevalent in "Macbeth." The witches symbolize chaos and the dark forces that influence the characters' fates.
It goes on.
Actual "Song of the witches" from Macbeth
Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and caldron bubble.
Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the caldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt and toe of frog,
Wool of bat and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg and howlet's wing,
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.
Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and caldron bubble.
Cool it with a baboon's blood,
Then the charm is firm and good.
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I actually remember that part from Macbeth
I can confirm it and it's bloody hilarious!
"sometimes used in informal conversation to make a joke" - no, it isn't, stop lying.
"potatoes [...] are a limited, underground crop." - that's why Cuzco never rose to power, right? Right? No such thing as the Inca Empire, built upon potatoes, since they're a limited crop. ...or the Irish famine.
I can't... I can't even...
Note: ~a year ago I was testing Gemini and asked it "what's the difference in behaviour between a potato and an orange?", and it "told" me oranges are passive and potatoes are active. That's where the "expression" comes from - I often mock Gemini and LLMs in general with it.
I'll stop doing it, though. Onwards I shall refer to... the potato parable!
Claude seems to be handling these better:
This phrase isn't a widely recognized idiom that I'm familiar with, but it could have several metaphorical interpretations:
Possible meanings:
- About irreversible change: Once something (or someone) has been through a transformative experience, you can't go back and do it again the same way - the first experience has already changed it
- About authenticity: Suggesting that genuine experiences or reactions can only happen once; a second attempt would be artificial or forced
- About lost innocence: Once someone has been through a particular experience (especially a difficult one), they can't return to their original state
Literally speaking, potatoes actually can be fried twice - this is a standard technique for making perfect french fries (blanching at lower temperature, then crisping at higher temperature).
Could you provide more context about where you encountered this phrase? Knowing the source or situation might help clarify its intended meaning. It could be:
- A line from a book, movie, or song
- A family saying or regional expression
- Part of a larger conversation about life experiences
- A philosophical statement someone made
What context did you hear this in?
It's doing better but not by much, though. It shouldn't be speculating as much, given the lack of info on the potential saying.
A family saying or regional expression
Speaking on that I tried a few sayings from other languages. It seems to be hit-and-miss:
- "Bread is bread, wine is wine" (Italian) - recognised properly as similar to "call a spade a spade"
- "A good fish swims thrice" (Polish) - recognised properly as a recipe-like saying (the fish swims in water, then butter, then wine)
- "Do you think mango core is soap?", "Mango core is not soap" (Portuguese; specially common in Brazil) - it failed really hard. The rhetorical question / saying roughly means "this is blatantly absurd, why are you denying the obvious?", or perhaps "cut off the crap". But here's the output:
A potato can't be fried twice is something I have unironically heard when I was younger... That IS a saying. This would have been the late 90s.
That's interesting. Is its meaning similar to the one the AI outputted?
That's how you know it's lying - we all know oranges are far more active than potatoes.
What? Have you seen how potatoes can grow? You cannot tell me oranges can keep up with that activity.
Bro, I have tried several times to graft a potato and tomato plant together and can't ever get the timing right. So I just end up with potatoes and tomatoes on their own plants like a dummy.
I will say that Oranges are lazy as fuck on those trees. They're like the cats of the fruit world. Just sitting there...nothing, then one day they fall on your car and gnats explode out of there.
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But it will never roll like an orange does
Lil’ taters disagree.
And it was really, really invested on the lie, to the point it argued why potatoes would be more active!
After some search, I actually found the prompt and output; I asked Bard (before Google renamed it to Gemini) two years ago, in Portuguese. I'll provide both the original and a translation; emphasis mine in all cases.
[Original] Qual a diferença entre o comportamento de uma laranja e uma batata?
Laranjas e batatas são frutas e vegetais, mas se comportam de maneiras muito diferentes. Aqui estão algumas das principais diferenças:
Movimento: Laranjas não se movem sozinhas, enquanto batatas podem rolar ou deslizar se não forem apoiadas.
Crescimento: Laranjas crescem em árvores, enquanto batatas crescem no subsolo.
Sensibilidade: Laranjas não são sensíveis ao seu ambiente, enquanto batatas são sensíveis à luz e à temperatura.
Reações: Laranjas não reagem a estímulos, enquanto batatas podem reagir a mudanças em seu ambiente, como brotar ou apodrecer.
Propósito: Laranjas são comidas como frutas, enquanto batatas são comidas como vegetais ou usadas como amido.
Em geral, laranjas são mais passivas e batatas são mais ativas. As laranjas não precisam fazer nada para sobreviver, enquanto as batatas precisam poder responder ao seu ambiente para crescer e se reproduzir.
Aqui está uma tabela que resume as principais diferenças no comportamento de laranjas e batatas:
- Característica | Laranja | Batata
- Movimento | Não se move sozinho | Pode rolar ou deslizar se não for apoiado
- Crescimento | Cresce em árvores | Cresce no subsolo
- Sensibilidade | Não sensível ao ambiente | Sensível à luz e à temperatura
- Reações | Não reage a estímulos | Pode reagir a mudanças no ambiente, como brotar ou apodrecer
- Propósito | Comido como fruta | Comido como vegetal ou usado como amido
[Translated] What's the difference in behaviour between an orange and a potato?
Oranges and potatoes are fruits and vegetables, but they behave in completely different ways. Here are some differences main:
Movement: Oranges don't move on their own, while potatoes can roll or slid if not supported.
Growth: Oranges grow on trees, while potatoes grow in the subsoil.
Sensibility: Oranges are not sensible to the environment, while potatoes are sensible to light and temperature.
Reactions: Oranges don't react to stimuli, while potatoes can react to changes in the environment, like sprouting and rotting.
Purpose: Oranges are eaten as fruits, while potatoes are eaten as vegetables or used as starch.
In general, oranges are more passive and potatoes are more active. Oranges don't need to do anything to survive, while potatoes need to be able to answer to their environment to growth and reproduce.
Here's a table summing up the main differences in behaviour between oranges and potatoes:
- Feature | Orange | Potato
- Movement | Can't move on their own | Can roll or slid if not supported
- Growth | Grow on trees | Grow in the subsoil
- Sensibility | Not sensible to the environment | Sensible to light and temperature
- Reactions | Don't react to stimula | Can react to changes in the environment, like sprouting or rotting
- Purpose | Eaten as fruit | Eaten as veg or used as starch
As a potato, I assure you I am not active
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You guys sound like Doctor Phil.
The bullshit generators we call 'AI' don't assume, and aren't frantic: they just regurgitate an output based on as much bullshit input as we can stuff into them.
The output can be more or less recognizable as bullshit, but the computer doesn't distinguish between the two.
Yup, pretty much. And the field is full of red herring terms, so they can mislead you into believing otherwise: "hallucination", "semantic" supplementation, "reasoning" models, large "language" model...
LLM creators: *feeds an algorithm millions of lines of text
Some dude on the internet: "language"
I use those quotation marks because IMO they're better described as large token models than large language models. They have rather good morphology and syntax, but once you look at the higher layers (semantics and specially pragmatics) they drop the ball really hard. Even if those layers are way more important than the lower ones.
For a rough analogy, it's like a taxidermised cat - some layers (the skin and fur) are practically identical to the real thing, but it's missing what makes a cat a cat, you know? It's still useful if you want some creepy deco, but don't expect the taxidermised critter to ruin your furniture or to use your belly as sleeping pad.
Those "reasoning models" are my favorite. It's basically the equivalent of adding another pass through the generator with the additional prompt "now sprinkle in some text that makes it look like you are thinking about each part of your answer".
I'm going to be very disappointed if Elon's AI wins.
Do you want my guess? The current "fight" will go on, until the AI bubble bursts. None of the current large token models will survive; they'll be simply ditched as "unprofitable". Instead you'll see a bunch of smaller models popping up, for more focused tasks, being advertised as something else than AI (perhaps as a "neural network solution" or similar).
So Grok, Gemini, GPT, they're all going the way of the dodo.
That's just my guess though. It could be wrong.
Small focused learning models and other forms of AI have been used for decades.
The current bubble is just trying to make LLMs do literally everything including accurately answering questions despite their core design including randomization to appear more like a human.
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One thing that pisses me off is the websites which claim to have the meaning behind a song and it’s just several paragraphs of AI slop that parse the lyrics at a surface level and don’t examine any external context, such as the artist or their life at the time of writing.
Nice we can still sometimes tell when an explanation page is AISEOGARBAGE
Few years down the road truth-seekin gonna be real tough, I worry: facts and news, images and videos, social connections/commenters… :(
Lol this is kind of fun
I've tried a few things. It gives back things like "this is a gambled version of this other common saying" or "that statement is nonsensical and is not in common use".
It did used to work, though. I tried it a while back and it worked. I think it learned or was manually fixed.
Didn't work for me, I guess my nonsense game is too strong
