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[–] Sideshow_B00b@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’d love to buy an exploitation free ”commiPhone” if there ever were a tech-co-op or something that would make one sustainably

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Closest you can get right now is buying Chinese phones, as China is the most developed socialist country currently. Even companies like FairPhone are ultimately trying to focus their best on producing well within the boundaries of capitalism, not moving beyond capitalism entitely. I suppose using Linux phones or buying used phones might be another avenue.

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

https://www.marxists.org/archive/brecht/works/1935/questions.htm

Who built Thebes of the 7 gates ? In the books you will read the names of kings. Did the kings haul up the lumps of rock ?

And Babylon, many times demolished, Who raised it up so many times ?

In what houses of gold glittering Lima did its builders live ? Where, the evening that the Great Wall of China was finished, did the masons go?

Great Rome is full of triumphal arches. Who erected them ?

Over whom did the Caesars triumph ? Had Byzantium, much praised in song, only palaces for its inhabitants ?

Even in fabled Atlantis, the night that the ocean engulfed it, The drowning still cried out for their slaves.

The young Alexander conquered India. Was he alone ?

Caesar defeated the Gauls. Did he not even have a cook with him ?

Philip of Spain wept when his armada went down. Was he the only one to weep ?

Frederick the 2nd won the 7 Years War. Who else won it ?

Every page a victory. Who cooked the feast for the victors ?

Every 10 years a great man. Who paid the bill ?

So many reports.

So many questions.

[–] muzzle@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every single technology that went into the iPhone was developed with public money:

  • Touchscreens
  • GPS
  • The internet
  • Unix
  • ...

You know what is it that apple patented and trademarked? Rounded edges.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

This is the case with pretty much all fundamental research because it takes a long time to do, and requires a lot of sustained investment without any direct profit. Companies simply swoop in at the end stages and start commercializing what was developed using public money.

[–] ganymede@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

well yeah most of its operating software was derived from opensource projects, but capitalists exploited those opensource project without giving much if anything back, so…

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean yeah but capitalism made it such that everybody needs a little fucking advertisement mind control spying machine in their pocket. Without capitalism I wouldn't have a smartphone and if I did, I would at least actually own the thing.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Then, well, do? Don't buy crapple or android? Linux-phones are out there. They can't compete yet, but they're yours. Like it always should've been.

If PCs would sell without admin-password and with an uninstallable windows, they wouldn't sell very well. The imagination of that alone sounds so absurd to me.