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[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

It's not out of fashion at all, "virgin" just became "incel". The intent is identical.

[–] keegomatic@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Not really. Incel implies a level of indoctrination into a misogynistic POV that has you convinced that you’re better off alone. It’s not the same as insulting someone for simply not having had sex yet.

edit: not that I think either is a productive thing to call another person

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Incel implies a level of indoctrination into a misogynistic POV

No one is thinking this deeply when they call a man who just said/did something they don't like an "incel". People just use it mindlessly as an insult, same as with "virgin".

[–] RobertoOberto@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I think people who haven't been been the target of insults since high school (or maybe ever?) forget how petty and uncreative it often is.

The point insulting someone isn't to be truthful, it's to be hurtful or put them down.

[–] keegomatic@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Maybe if they’re really young and weren’t on the internet when the word became popular, sure

[–] ipitco@lemmybefree.net 5 points 8 hours ago

who else call people virgin anyways?

[–] DigitalAudio@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Not at all. Incels are almost overwhelmingly misogynistic and into a lot of weird pseudo scientific shit. Incels are those claiming they deserve women but at the same time don't deserve them because they're too beta and all the rich alphas are getting 10 chicks a second, so they excuse their lack of success with dating in a lot of made up bullshit to delude themselves into never improving as people.

Incels are not just virgins, they're basically a cult, and thinking people use it just as 'virgin' is either deliberately obtuse or ignorant

[–] Soulg@ani.social 7 points 5 hours ago

I agree with everything you said, but also, there are absolutely people who just call weird guys incels regardless of whether or not it actually fits.

[–] ipitco@lemmybefree.net 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

thinking people use it just as ‘virgin’ is either deliberately obtuse or ignorant

That's just what people say these days, even if it's inaccurate. They don't care, they just want to insult and trigger. Who is the ignorant?

[–] DigitalAudio@sopuli.xyz 0 points 4 hours ago

I mean, fair enough, but also, we really shouldn't be making it even entertaining new definitions for words based on online ragebait.