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[–] krigo666@lemmy.world 32 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] tal@olio.cafe 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Well...

From an evolutionary standpoint, we're basically the same collection of mostly-hairless primates that, 20,000 years ago, hadn't yet figured out agriculture and were roaming the land in small groups of maybe 100 or so at most, living off it as best we could.

From that standpoint, I think that we've done pretty well with a brain that evolved to deal with a rather different environment and is having to navigate a terribly-confusing, rather different situation.

I mean, you see any other critters that have been outperforming us on improving their understanding of the world?

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Well that for one, but also self destruction of their environment for living in roughly 150 years. Chapeau!

So yeah I think we were doing well at some point. Now we're here.

Also we need to redefine success.

[–] NewDayRocks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Why? Is it somehow better to go to an actual church or pay someone to confide in?

People using technology to fill a need on the company's funds is not the worst thing in the world.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Is it somehow better to go to an actual church or pay someone to confide in?

Objectively yes.

A real person isn't a stochastic parrot yes-anding whatever stupid idea falls out of your head and is less likely to provide obsequious responses to questions asked.

A real person is less likely to compile what you say to them and mine data from it or turn it over to authorities without a warrant.

A real person also has the ability to actually understand what you're saying and provide an intelligent response rather than getting back a statistical block of words that are mathematically good words to use based on the underlying model.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

having the ability to do so doesn't necessarily mean they will do so.

There are plenty of terrible therapists, preists, family, and friends out there. Personally I gave up on asking for people for 'advice' 20 years ago.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

having the ability to do so doesn't necessarily mean they will do so.

No, but they have a profit motive to do so. And I'd rather assume the worst and be wrong rather than deal with another 23andMe situation in a decade. Because it will happen eventually. VC money isn't endless, and they're pissing away money like a pro athlete in a club.

You can trust them if you want, but I'm not naive enough to do that myself.

There are plenty of terrible therapists, preists, family, and friends out there.

Preaching to the choir, I've dumped people from all noted categories for being shitty. I gave up on therapy about 15 years ago but my partner convinced me to go back. I looked for someone who fit my specific needs, and found someone who is rebuilding my trust in therapists

I trust my therapist not to randomly decide to give out my info because their job relies on that. AI chat bots flat out tell you they will use what you give them for their 'training' purposes, which means they have access to it and can use it or sell it as they please.

[–] NewDayRocks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

For some people, paying with their data is a lot cheaper than paying for therapy or religion. I do not fault them for this, especially if they are getting similar results.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

if they are getting similar results.

That 'if' is doing a hurculean amount of effort, given the reports of ChatGPT psychosis, because again, you're dealing with a stochastic parrot not a real person giving you actual advice.

[–] n4ch1sm0@piefed.social 5 points 12 hours ago

Yes, touching grass and talking to someone with life experience and their own opinions is better than talking to an LLM that agrees and validates everything you say, doesn't hold you accountable, and siphons your data, all while you get more and more mentally ill (because people treat talking to an LLM like they're talking to a Cortana like AGI, but the limitations of machine learning make it literally fucking impossible).