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AOC has rejected all AIPAC money. Of course they could run dark money ads for her anyways but, if you think that's likely to happen, you are delusional.
Every foreign policy decision has ramifications that go far beyond the immediate. Israel isn't going to not have a missile defense shield so, if they don't get it from us, they will get it from someone else. Maybe Russia, China, or Europe. How does that shake out on the world stage?
Just to clarify again because I'm sure it's necessary, I do not approve of sending any aid to Israel. I just don't think that disagreeing with me automatically makes someone a genocide apologist. The world isn't that simple.
Ok, so? If U.S. does that and even if other countries starts arming them, U.S. will at least have a moral high ground.
There is no evidence any of these countries will give Israel weapons btw.
If there is an arms embargo, Israeli economy tanks since much of it is propped up on the U.S. being the backstop.
Fuck me. I knew that telling you that I don't want any aid for Israel wouldn't stop you from trying to convince me. Why the fuck don't I pay attention to what my brain is telling me?
That was a "for instance". The point was that any position in foreign policy is going to have more than one impact. I wasn't making a full argument, and why would I when I already agree with you?
Once maybe. The fact is that the US and Israeli arms industries have commingled and each relies on the other for different expertise. A full arms embargo would certainly lead to at least the risk of Israel trading arms secrets for access to weapons made elsewhere. Israel is not a passive purchaser of weapons or intelligence technology.
We don’t believe you because you support a politician that funds the genocide and use Liberal Zionist arguments we have heard a million times from genocidal liberals
And I think your just a Republican stirring up shit because you spend all your time attacking the very few Democrats who actually acknowledge the genocide.
I have never once even "supported" AOC in this discussion. Pointing out that she isn't a genocide apologist isn't support, it's just reality.
I do personally support her because (among other things) she is better than any Republican or Democrat likely to replace her. If you have a better candidate then I say "great!". Run them against Pelosi, Schumer, or any one of hundreds of Democrats that are worse on this and a myriad of other issues.
That's the difference between you and I. You want to aura farm off of tragedy while I want to do something productive to end it. If you actually have a shit, you wouldn't be wasting your time attacking the Democrats closest to your position. Replace AOC with your perfect candidate and you will have achieved absolutely nothing.
This "reality" isn't supported by reality. She is a liberal Zionist and Zionism demands the extermination and ethnic cleaning of Palestinians in order to function. You don't support defensive weapons while being anti-genocide when those defensive weapons aid in furthering the genocide.
The gap between how much you know and how much you think you know could fit a small celestial body
"If you hate the party that is complicit in Palestinian genocide then you must belong to the other party that is also complicit in Palestinian genocide. I literally cannot imagine anyone having a principled opposition to genocide."
Not at all. Just the ones that act like it. One more hexbear for the block list. Pack of fucking hyenas.
“Everyone who disagrees with me is a Republican” and other calming fantasies to soothe the panicking Liberal mind