It's frustrating because management are so colossally, transparently, stupid but they get the big paychecks and the workers get fucked. And then like half the workers sit there going "Well this is just and fair. this is a good world. If the people actually doing the work had more of a say, that's communism and thus axiomatically bad"

[–] Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Rise up and take back the means of production!

We should steal ~~The Declaration of Independence~~ Microsoft Excel!

But yeah, execs have no idea what all daily work looks like, but because they siphon 99% of the profits that we creat away from us and no matter how wasteful or unproductive everyone is, enough gets done that they STILL make millions off of us. So they don't care. We all suffer and get paid JUST enough to not riot, but they make millions and millions just by virtue of being the executive or owner.

I wonder how well a company would actually do if it was fully owned by all workers evenly.

Imagine Microsoft if every employee had the same % share in profits. Wonder what that would look like? I bet middle managers would stop wasting money left and right. I bet pointless projects would stop. Anything you do to make the company more efficient or profitable is celebrated and you actually get a share in that profit.

I also wonder if it would simply fail due to people wanting to coast and not pull their share.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

We should steal ~~The Declaration of Independence~~ Microsoft Excel!

This has functionally already been done, its called LibreOffice Calc.

95% chance any business process that uses or touches Excel can be switched over to that with some minor tweaks, 5% chance someone might have to actually code some kind of custom API / batch file shim type thing, or its some stupidly niche situation where you truly are stuck paying your ~~liscensing fer~~ capitalism tithe to MSFT.

[–] Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

No, I mean STEAL it.

Downloading isn't stealing. Reproducing isn't stealing. Forking a repo isn't stealing.

I mean. STEAL IT!

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Oh you mean literally steal the source code?

Unfortunately I regret to inform you that this thing called IP Law exists and that definitely is 'stealing'.

Heck, even reverse engineering from stolen, but ultimately not directly used source code... generally also 'stealing'.

But uh yeah, Excel definitely does not have a publically available repo that can be forked.

Sure, you could I guess hack into MSFT and leak the source code, but if you live anywhere that has an extradition treaty with the US, you are going to jail forever.

... LibreOffice Calc provides a less risky alternative to this.

Like, sure, I generally agrer with your opinions, but our opinions are not the actual state of how the world works.

[–] xav@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago

That kind of company exists in France, they're called "cooperatives" and the ones I know have a great morale.