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I'm sidetracking a bit, but am I alone in thinking self hosting hobbyists are way too into "lightweight and not bloated" as a value?
I mean, I get it if you have a whole data center worth of servers, but if it's a cobbled together home server it's probably fine, right? My current setup idles at 1.5% of its CPU and 25% of its RAM. If I turned everything off those values are close to zero and effectively trivial alongside any one of the apps I'm running in there. Surely any amount of convenience is worth the extra bloat, right?
Gentoo/Arch guy checking in. It's more about having fewer codepaths to go wrong after some update. At least in my case.
After a OS update? I mean, I guess, but most things are going to be in containers anyway, right?
The last update that messed me up on any counts was Python-related and that would have got me on any distro just as well.
Once again, I get it at scale, where you have so much maintenance to manage and want to keep it to a minimum, but for home use it seems to me that being on an LTS/stable update channel would have a much bigger impact than being on a lightweight distro.
No, even lighterweight - no containers.
My NAS is mostly plain Arch packages, so just upgrade and all is well. No additional container software layer to maintain either.
Btrfs management tools update with the OS, all is good.
Yeah I get you. I suppose it is only installing what you need and knowing exactly what everything is for/does. As well as squeezing every last drop of resource form tired old hardware. But yeah there is a usability trade-off.
This is such a myth. 99% of the time your hardware is doing there doing nothing. Even when running "bloated" services.
Nextcloud, for example, uses practically zero cpu and a few tens on mb when sitting around yet people avoid it for "bloat".
I suppose it makes more sense the less you want to do and the older your hardware is. Even when repurposing old laptops and stuff like that I find the smallest apps I'd want to run were orders of magnitude more costly than any OS overhead. This was even true that one time I got lazy and started running stuff on an older Windows machine without reinstalling the OS, so I'm guessing anything Linux-side would be fine.