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Here's a link to another post where I expressed my thoughts if you're interested -- https://lemmy.world/post/36592343

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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

The ruling class, the capitalists, don’t do evil things for the sake of power or control.

Yes they do, that is literally the only reason. Once you reach their wealth, you are not sated with merely making more money.

Money is relatively meaningless to a multi-billionaire, power and control isn't, it's why they fantasize about holding the keys to the food storage room in their bunker and not about running their own printing press to make Bison dollars.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

No, this is wrong. Capitalism is a control system that selects for those capitalists that obtain the most profits. It isn't about pursuit of power at the top, if you cease seeking profits you are overtaken by other capitalists. There's no desire for power for power's sake, power is a tool and its purpose is higher profits, not the other way around. Capitalism is driven by profit, not power.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au -1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

False.

Money is not the end goal it is a tool, it is a physical embodiment of power. Money for money's sake does literally nothing, it's why billionaires start hiring lobbyists, buying media stations, starting charities, etc to push their views and influence onto society.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 14 hours ago

Capitalists only seek influence to better facilitate higher profits. You've got it flipped, money isn't pursued for power, power is pursued for money, as capitalism is a control system that selects for the most profitable and discards the rest.

[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Damn, "They need power for the sake of even more power because there is nothing higher" This sounds extremely relevant.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

It isn't, actually. Capitalism only cares about power to the extent that it facilitates profits, capitalism doesn't systemically place "power" as principle.