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I respect people's right to use apple products, but please stop asserting "privacy", big corps doesn't give a shit.

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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 49 points 2 days ago (29 children)

Apple does give a shit about privacy… in the same way that companies care about gay pride. Right now privacy is still a selling point for Apple compared to other companies. This is why they are still so loud about on device AI and pretty much silent when any of their features require cloud processing. But am under no illusions that will remain the case forever.

As far as “dumb phones” are concerned; they don’t exist anymore. It’s still a device with an OS, GPS (as required by the law that created the Amber Alert here in the US), and an Internet connection, that makes calls using VoLTE or similar. Most of the ones you can buy today run things like KaiOS which has an App Store and comes with Google Maps preinstalled.

If you want real privacy you need to disconnect from the Internet which pretty much means no phones at all now that everything is VoIP.

[–] nef@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mostly agree except about disconnecting from the internet, classic SMS/voice calls aren't any more private than VoIP.

Your best bet for location privacy is E2E encrypted services like Signal over wifi, plus MAC randomization and a VPN on untrusted networks. I'd say GrapheneOS is good enough for most people, but mobile Linux has also come a long way.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Encryption doesn’t stop them from knowing what tower you are attached to. Simply having a phone on you even with the GPS and WiFi off (or with the newer phones even the whole phone off) would still be enough to get your location to within a few hundred feet. The original iPhone used triangulation exclusively for location.

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