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The following is just a really odd way to convince someone of something in my opinion.
It's also especially odd if you're mentioning independent studies. Are there not independent studies about the living conditions?
And to be clear, I don't even disagree with you. I think a lot of westerners are affected by racist/orientalist views (or whatever you wanna call them) without realizing it. It just felt like a strange way to counter the thought process.
I mention "independent studies" because people are insane and will call anything pro-China you say as just Chinese propaganda.
Nothing I was said was about "independent studies" versus "studies". I get your point, I'm just saying that wasn't part of what I found odd. I only used the phrase independent studies instead of studies because you did.
Brother I only said what I said because you literally said you thought me saying it was weird.
If you want to look at living standards you can compare cost of living, access to public transportation, cost of food, medicine, you name it. Its all cheaper and rapidly approaching parity with the west, if not already surpassing it. Specifically with thr
But again living standards are often highly correlated with approval of your nation and the government running it.
I feel like there's some hostility or defensiveness and we keep talking past each other when trying to resolve it, so I'm going to drop the topic because I don't think there are actually any disagreements between us.
If there's any hostility it was initiated by yourself my friend. Feel free to see yourself out.
Bullshit.