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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even locally, it would take some incredible magic for the capitalists who rule a given city or town's politics, to enact or enforce laws than go against their interests / profits, especially without a fight. Scale isn't relevant here, since local elites use the city/town police as goons to protect their property.

Unless you can give some examples, I don't believe it, and I certainly can't think of any time in my city's history where they've willingly allowed something against their interests.

[–] Womdat10@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My point is that the rulers of a city or town might not be capitalists. In smaller scale elections, people can actually have a real choice to vote for a socialist, or communist, or other similar left wing leader.

Off the top of my head (and without researching this further) simple things like minimum wage increases have happened, and while it took alot of fighting, that is accomplished by voting. As far as I know, those aren't typically financially very good for the rich who control the government. If I am incorrect about this, please correct me.

Also, I apologize, I am really not in the mood to do a bunch of research to find examples currently, if I remember about this in the future I will, but that is, unfortunately, far from a guarantee.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 17 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Off the top of my head (and without researching this further) simple things like minimum wage increases have happened, and while it took alot of fighting, that is accomplished by voting.

Minimum wage, the 5-day work week, and other workers gains took decades of violent struggle and organizing by socialists, communists, and anarchists in nearly every country.

My point is that the rulers of a city or town might not be capitalists.

That's not how it works in any capitalist country. Political power is subservient to economic power, and is toothless without it.