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Meh, there's no world where people are going to actually enjoy doing tedious, repetitive tasks even if they fully own their surplus labor. This was always my beef with the antiwork subreddit. "Socialism is when nobody digs ditches."
There will always be shitty jobs until we fully automate society. The guy doing hard labor in the hot sun is always going to resent the guy working in AC even if they both own their surplus labor. This is why socialism is still just harm reduction on the path to achieving a post scarcity, post labor society.
Its a matter of compensation and conditions.
If the guy in the sun is working from sunrise to sunset and can barely get by, let alone enjoy anything outside of work, and the guy in the ac is making bank while barely working and have tons of leasure, of course there gonna be resentment.
But, give the the people who shovel shit and fix things and all that blue collar jobs 300k a year by working 3-4 times a week for 5-6 hrs and you you'll see a line to get them jobs.
A once buddy of mine wouldn't stand sitting in a office all day, no matter what you paid him. He worked his ass off as a gardner for 20+years at his on business while making a lot of money(more than I do working an office job) and he actually really enjoys working in the sun.
Point is, nobody want to get exploited
The thing is that capitalism is incredibly INEFFICIENT in providing value to society. In a planned economy you could (theoretically) have rational though to maximize benefit for all - in capitalism it's just grow grow grow. That is why we're digging so many superfluous ditches. How many roads, how many ditches could be spared if we just build less idiotic sprawling suburbs? If we had a rational, democratic and semi-planned economy?
There is this study that we'd only need 30% of the energy and resources we currently use to provide decent standards of living for every single person on earth.
Of course you're right, just "doing socialism" won't get us there easily either.