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You mean the court case from almost ten years ago?
Yeah, that sounds safe. I mean, Google is still all about Do No Evil, right?
You think they've started lying and keeping logs since then?
Again, how many companies say one thing one quarter and another the next? Let alone a decade later.
I am not saying to go uninstall your PIA stuff right now. I am saying to act with the understanding of what your risks are if they are compromised and how important you would be in the event that they are.
Because companies are not our friends. We may have aligned interests but you have to always operate under the understanding of what capitalism IS and what their interests actually are. And while it is fun to aggressively define yourself by what you consume? To play on a fairly misogynistic "joke": PIA isn't gonna fuck you no matter how hard you stan for it.
Wow that’s really something of a reply lol. No one is “stanning” for anything. Who is defining themself by what they consume?
Homie. Your response to "don't trust companies. Take precautions" is "Well ackshually trust this one" and, upon being reminded that other companies used to have good marketing and even practices, was to double down.
Word it however you want. Either way: Don't stan for corporations and protect yourself.
If you don’t trust the VPN you use then why do you even use a VPN?
Again - no one is doing any “stanning”. I never said don’t take precautions. One precaution is to thoroughly investigate the VPN company that you choose to use. The entire point of PIA is privacy. If they started lying not only would they get sued beyond belief, but they wouldn’t exist anymore.
Because, again, it is about managing risk.
Pickpockets and muggers are a thing. Depending on how worried you are, you might consider only carrying just enough cash for the day but... good luck functioning on holiday in a foreign land without your phone. So you take precautions. You avoid the giant masses of tourists but you also avoid the super dark alleys. And you always keep a hand on your valuables.
Same thing here. There are plenty of activities where just having a layer of VPN is a great protection (all those linux ISOs, for example...). But I am also aware that were I to do anything where being identified is a serious risk to my safety? I am using alternative methods. And so forth.
So when someone says
And you reply
You are actively giving bad advice and leading to the kind of shit this thread is about. People who didn't do basic research who thought they were safe and... hopefully are just at a bit higher risk of getting a letter in the mail from the MPAA.
Oh are we just making up quotes now? Fun! Why did you say this?
No one is at risk of turning into a newt, witches aren't real! You silly billy!
If we stick to just what people actually said though, you'd see that I said that the ones you can trust to not keep logs and as such actually keep you safe from tracking are who you should use.