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I've been thinking about this amped up conservative rhetoric that liberals and leftists hate America. We all know that's BS. Right? Except it's not, and we should respond to it for what it is.

"I love an America I grew up in. I love an America I believe in, that I lived most of my life in. Now, the idea of America that you're fighting and "winning" for is killing that America I live in, that I love. So you're right. I hate what you imagine America to be... because it is trying to murder the America that I love. And I don't use the word "murder" lightly, and I apply it to you. And if that means to you that I hate America... then you're right! The America you believe in isn't lovable."

That's all.

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[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (101 children)

And so, painfully and wasteful, we will have to shoulder the burden of becoming great again. Really great, not the MAGA/Temu version.

Every time the violence of the American empire is turned inwards (unless it's only on marginalized people), its privileged citizens say it's not who they are and liken it to Russia, or China, or whoever the enemy of the day is. What do you think you participated in as a soldier? This IS America, you're just part of the group that experiences it this time - and it would have to become much worse than it is now to be a fraction of what black people (or indigenous people, or many other groups) have experienced in your own country or Iraqi people have experienced at the hands of your soldiers and sanctions.

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