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[–] blueamigafan@lemmy.world 70 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I look forward to the AI bubble bursting, and billionaires looking shocked, 'because there were no signs'

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 60 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In contrast to the housing bubble, where a lot of the value was in overpriced houses sold to individuals, this overpricing is almost entirely in tech stocks, and tech stocks are almost entirely owned by by the wealthiest 10%, even 1%. The tech billionaires have limited ability to divest themselves of their own overpriced companies and absolutely will lose money.

None of them are going bankrupt, they'll all be just fine when the market recovers in a few years, because that's the nature of capitalism. A bunch of peons, who convinced themselves that the bubble-value of their 401k meant it was safe to retire, will suffer, will have to go back to work - if you're not an oligarch, losing money is painful.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In contrast to the housing bubble, where a lot of the value was in overpriced houses sold to individuals,

was?

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

34% of single-family housing are now rented out. We're not building enough housing, a fact that hasn't changed since the housing bubble collapsed. So, a lack of investment in new property, large funds putting money into existing properties instead, and less risky homeowners overall means we don't really have a housing bubble. We have a supply shortage, leading to high prices. The correction for that isn't a crash.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

since the housing bubble collapsed

did it? it does not seem so. where I live to buy a house in good condition people need to take out loans that the bank may not even allow, but if it does they'll pay it for decades. even empty plots are still very expensive. more and more people live in a rented place even though they don't want to move, because their house is taken away.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What housing bubble are you referring to?

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] artyom@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

If you watched that movie, you would know that wasn't a housing bubble, and it had nothing to do with pricing. It had to do with lenders fraudulently selling mortgages to anyone who could fog a glass, knowing full well they wouldn't be able to repay them.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Gotta love those brittish expressions

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The bubble was accelerated by people assuming prices would always rise, often their own greed and flipping or becoming landlords,, and this was only possible due to the financial engineering that made lending to these folks posivle, but all of that droce the value of the underlying assets down significantly.

You claim there wasn't a bubble...look at home price values in the sunbelt in 05 vs 2009.

TF are you talking about there wasn't a bubble

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

this was only possible due to the financial engineering that made lending to these folks posivle

There was no "financial engineering". It was just fraud.

look at home price values in the sunbelt in 05 vs 2009. TF are you talking about there wasn't a bubble

"Bubble" does not mean "prices go up and then back down again".

[–] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah all the people praying for a crash are praying for nobody to have retirement funds.

You can easily tell who's actually employed in this thread because anyone with a 401k is going to get dicked down while the 0.1% get a bailout.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

They will be fine either way...

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A lot of them are actively talking about how it could be a bubble and the implications. No one is going to be surprised. Billionaires are just really hoping they can make it work before the bubble pops

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah… I mean billionaires have at least as much information as a random person on Lemmy :D