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[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So you will always find a person who is doing the enslaving but enslaving isn't human nature? I dont know how to follow that logic.

Let's take another class of slaves: domesticated animals. We've been doing that for a looooong time. We like them, but we don't consider them our equals and will in general readily murder them or sacrifice them to meet our needs. Most of what you eat has about the intelligence of a toddler. Cats and dogs we enslave as our emotional support are also intelligent creatures.

Since resources are always finite all creatures default to exploitation as a survival system. Humans are good at making up stories for why it's ok actually, but that doesn't mean it is.

[–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Finding an exception to the rule and then claiming that exception is the rule is kinda wild. The vast vast vast vast majority of human beings do NOT engage in exploitation of each other. As such I do not believe exploitation is a part of human nature but is rather a manifestation of anti social behavior intersecting with the material conditions of the time. Humans are egalitarian and communal by nature, things that pull us from that are aberrations to our nature not pillars of it.

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

At this point it sounds like you're saying "I don't have proof but under everything I think people are Good and every counter example is actually something else."

I don't think this can be argued against because it's just a closely held belief. That is, you can't logic someone out of a belief they didn't logic themselves into. Therefore I am stopping here.

[–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My man we are both arguing opinions here lol you dont get to pretend like your opinion is correct because you like your logic and I don't lol

We just disagree on this its not as deep as you're trying to make it out to be with this weird self aggrandizing attitude.

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well... Mine has the evidence of history. You rejected history and called pretty much every historical figure ever an outlier. I don't know what to do with that. (Besides move on with my life)

[–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

That's not what I did at all but that's a fun way to characterize it.