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The title is a bit misleading, as the article lists diverging analysts' opinions, ranging from Valve willing to sell at a loss or low margins, to high prices due to RAM and SSD price volatility.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

There are two red flags on the new Steam Machine — the fact that it still includes USB-A ports and the 8GB of VRAM. Anything under 12GB is a major problem in 2025. While there are adapters for USB, I hope they offer a version that includes 12GB or 16GB VRAM.

I was pricing out an entry level gaming PC for one of the grandkids for Christmas and the price of parts has gone mad. It’s even worse if you want to make a smaller ITX build. How does less material and complexity translate to higher costs? And storage and memory are ridiculous. With a few small upgrades, even at $1,000 these would be a steal. It’s a shame they won’t ship before the holidays.

So right now, we’re discussing Steam Decks with some third party docks and accessories so they can be used like a PC. I can’t find anything better.

[–] zarenki@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

the fact that it still includes USB-A ports

Why complain about this? This is a good thing. Most people have USB-A peripherals and the majority of new keyboards and mice even in 2025 still rely on it. Game controllers too: Switch 2 Pro, Xbox Elite 2, 8bitdo wireless controllers, and many others all include a USB A to C cable (cables with USB-C on both ends can be used too but need to be bought separately) for charging and optional wired play, and all modern wired-only controllers use a USB-A cable. Far better for the device to offer USB-A ports than force most users to buy USB-A adapters.

This system does have one USB-C port on the back, though it would be better if it had one on the front too in addition to the USB-A ones.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

the fact that it still includes USB-A ports

Majority of peripherals still use USB-A.

Anything under 12GB is a major problem in 2025.

That's hilarious considering the GabeCube's config is based off of the most common hardware config according to Steam data. If I remember right, it's slightly better than that common config.

It's not a device for 4k/144Hz gaming.

It’s even worse if you want to make a smaller ITX build. How does less material and complexity translate to higher costs?

More difficult manufacturing process, and lower overall sales (which means higher per-unit production costs).

So right now, we’re discussing Steam Decks with some third party docks and accessories so they can be used like a PC. I can’t find anything better.

Unless you're full-on anti-Windows, look into the ROG Ally. A friend of mine got one and is super happy with it.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s not a device for 4K/144Hz gaming

Someone should tell Valve that then, cause they’re advertising it as 4K60, which it has no hope of hitting.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Umm.... Do you not understand the difference between "144" and "60"?

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you not understand what I said?

They’re calling it a 4K60 machine and it has no hope of doing that either.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We'll see what the benchmarks show.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 0 points 2 weeks ago

I guess, but that’s like saying we have to wait for the benchmarks before we can tell if the 6060 can do 4K120hz with path tracing. We know it can’t, but if you want to get your hopes up then be my guest, you’ll just be very disappointed.