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As a leftist I do not like guns. I guess that is the lie.
To me leftists are revolutionary. I'm curious to know how you're going to be part of a revolution without an actual threat to power.
I’m a leftist who doesn’t much care for guns but I’ll use one if I fucking have to.
Thanks for giving a straight forward response without quoting a footnote from some random asshole's third lost manuscript.
There are reformist and pacifist leftists too (like democratic socialists, syndicalists, anarcho-pacifists), not that I agree with any of them completely.
Leftism at its simplest definition is just opposing social hierarchy (which right wing ideologies like capitalism, fascism, and monarchism promote) in favor of socialism (which can also include communism, anarchism, and syndicalism).
It's because leftism is so broad with differing methods that many leftists hate each other. If you narrow down the definition of leftist to only your own political beliefs, then there wouldn't be much leftists to hate.
Reformism is liberal, you won't be able to reform capitalists within the system they created and control.
I agree that it's an ineffective method, but they are still considered leftists. Marx refers to them as utopian socialists.
That's a fair point. Although there is a reason there is an issue with people shooting each other in the US and there isn't really anywhere else.
You don't need guns to make a revolution. In fact, guns make the worst type of revolution, one that leads to civil war. So if your type of leftism cares about wellbeing of your fellow humans, you would like to avoid a civil war by all means.
A person having a rifle was a threat to power, when power also meant people with rifles, not anymore. The power will thrive in a civil war scenario
Must be nice living in fantasy land
Said a man dreaming of shooting your way into power. I'm actually glad you never go beyound your stupid little larp.
You are extremely inane and lack understanding of the world you live in. I am going to block you because there is zero chance you are ever going to contribute anything to my lemmy experience. I suggest you go to lemmy.world/settings and locate this button
Everyone knows the best revolutions are ones where the powers that be are simply convinced to give up their power by facts and logic, like what happened with women's suffrage, or civil rights, or gay rights. No guns or violence involved with those!
Every fucking time I for some reason think I can have a serious conversation here, someone hits me with shit like that. Why do I even bother.
They have a point, all real gains for the working classes have come through violence or the threat of violence.
well then, show us any revolution that didn't used guns to be accomplished