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I wonder if most of europe believes they could successfully fight a war against Russia, USA, China, Iran, North Korea, Syria... etc. I know Europe doesn't/didn't want to help the US avoid their current fascist dictatorship, so I wonder what they imagine the result would be in conflict against the new axis of evil.
It is not allies that are alienating USA, it's the other way around. Apparently USA believe they don't need allies, because they are acting hostile against everybody, even their closest allies, while being friendly to Russia!!
Neither USA or EU stand a chance against China alone, we need to cooperate, but USA is not cooperating they are being confrontational and undermining EU and just about every other ally even Canada which for decades has been the closest ally to USA, and helped USA every single time USA called for it. So has Denmark, yet USA threaten to take Greenland!!
First of all, I hate what's happened to the US, but with that said...
There was a good decade or so where Russia was running a pretty obvious disinfo campaign against US citizens while literally setting up a Manchurian candidate in Donald trump. We already know to some extent that Europe had intel on the situation and really didn't do jack shit to try and prevent what has turned into Russian backed dictatorship.
So I disagree with you on the subject of alienation. I would argue that the EU set itself up to be alienated through its inaction.
On the subject of allies, I don't think there is a single person in the US that really believes it doesn't need allies. The US has just traded its western allies for eastern ones. Trump has been cozying up to other dictators around the world since his first term. These days he's very friendly with Putin.
So again, I disagree with you.
And I find it pretty fucking hilarious that you're talking about the US cooperating with the EU when the EU has done fuck all to help prevent what's happened to it. If there is war between these nations, there is almost no way the US will be allied with the EU. The US is a dictatorship and it will ally itself with other dictatorships.
It wasn't the EU's role to defend our internal politics. It was ours.
And we were also trying to be careful. More careful than we should have been.
The goal was to remain as non-partisan as possible while giving the public enough info to make the right decision. We all failed in that.
Yeah we failed because we didn't use all avenues available to us. Including insisting upon the resources of our supposed allies. Although I feel those resources should have been volunteered considering the clear and present danger to our democracy and the fact that these NATO states were supposed to be our allies. instead we got next to nothing.
This alliance has felt incredibly one sided and at this point, with the US being heavily controlled by Russia I almost feel like Europe is just reaping what its sown. If there is a war in europe, europe will suffer, and it is their own faults for being willfully isolationist.