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Proton shifts out of Switzerland over snooping law fears (www.fudzilla.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by Powderhorn@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org

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Proton is beginning to shift its physical infrastructure out of Switzerland, fearing a fresh bout of government snooping baked into the country's updated surveillance laws.

The company has confirmed that Lumo, its newly launched AI chatbot positioned as a privacy-friendly ChatGPT rival, is the first to move. Servers for the product are now being housed in Germany, with Norway also in the frame for future operations. This comes amid serious grumbling about amendments to the country’s existing surveillance ordinance, which would force VPNs and messaging apps to identify users and store their data for up to six months.

Proton has been vocal about its opposition since May. In a statement roton’s head of anti-abuse and account security Eamonn Maguire said: “Because of legal uncertainty around Swiss government proposals to introduce mass surveillance, proposals that have been outlawed in the EU, Proton is moving most of its physical infrastructure out of Switzerland. Lumo will be the first product to move."

Well, fuck. "You can keep your Nazi gold to yourself, but we need your LLM interactions."

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[–] LukeZaz@beehaw.org 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

its newly launched AI chatbot positioned as a privacy-friendly ChatGPT rival

Add another thing to the list of reasons I'm losing trust in Proton. Might start having to look at a new email provider soon, I guess.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you don't like LLMs then why can't you just not use them? Why do you have to start avoiding everything LLM like the plague?

[–] LukeZaz@beehaw.org 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Because companies that chase LLMs tend not to give me a choice, that's why. They inject it into everything they touch because they think it's the Future™, and therefore I must obviously want it around every second of my life, every day, consequences be damned. The earth can burn, my privacy can erode, misinformation can run rampant, and the copyright of small artists can die, all for the sake of an overused, scarcely-functional "tool" that a bunch of MBAs think I can't so much as breathe without.

Almost nobody actually wanted Proton to make this. They just went and did it to chase a trend, ignoring the many people who hate it all the while. The last thing I need is for the the company that my email depends on to start getting dragged around by tech bros. If they're willing to make a decision as rash and irresponsible as that, it is a clear indicator that worse is to come.