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A music and science lover has revealed that some birds can store and retrieve digital data. Specifically, he converted a PNG sketch of a bird into an audio waveform, then tried to embed it in the song memory of a young starling, ready for later retrieval as an image. Benn Jordan made a video of this feat, sharing it on YouTube, and according to his calculations, the bird-based data transfer system could be capable of around 2 MB/s data speeds.

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[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 176 points 4 days ago (17 children)

In before EU genocides all starlings because you can't put backdoors in them to scan for CSAM.

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 89 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Well, technically it has a built in backdoor...

[–] hoch@lemmy.world 85 points 4 days ago (9 children)
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[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 23 points 4 days ago (4 children)

More of a front and back door, if my understanding of a cloaca is correct

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[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 124 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Imagine the possibilities for piracy and secure messaging (provided that the birds don't snitch on you).

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you take control of enough birdhouses you can launch DDoS attacks.

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Only a matter of time before megacorps put ads and a subscription service on bird calls, now. 😫

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 72 points 4 days ago (5 children)

2MB/s / 16Mbps is enough for 4K HEVC video and audio. In theory you could encode a full movie with enough starlings.

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 51 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And they say physical media is dead!

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The average lifespan of a starling is usually between two and five years.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

This just gave me an idea for a new movie rental service. You'll never own anything. If we can get homing pigeons to learn movies, we could cut delivery costs

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

They tried to make this a thing once :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexplay

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-D

If Disney did this, they'd probably just poison the birds so they die faster.

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[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 33 points 4 days ago

A million monkeys on typewriters is old news. Now we're gonna teach a million starlings to play back the entire bee movie.

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[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Inb4 Doom can now run on birds.

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[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 61 points 4 days ago

We're finally getting tweets back

[–] RunJun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Reducing Benn Jordan down to just “enthusiast” is wild.

[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

Musician/Wizard/Activist

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[–] gozz@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Not to be a wet blanket, but every time this comes up I get annoyed by some factual inaccuracies in the articles about this. It is not digital! He drew an image on a computer, but converted it to an analogue spectrogram to store on the bird. That's neat as hell, but it's not digital. The image that he got back was slightly corrupted.

Now I would be fascinated to see a follow-up seeing if you can actually modulate a digital signal and have is survive a round trip through the bird bit-for-bit accurate. I suspect in reality it would be much lower data rate, but definitely not nothing!

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

By your definition nothing can be digital since the world is analog. Even the bits in your CPU are voltages in transistors. As such, every real life signal can be distorted.

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 days ago (8 children)

The point with digital transfers is that you round it back to either 0 or 1, hoping that no bits are distorted enough to have any loss at all.

[–] gozz@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Exactly. Digital logic, when implemented in analogue, generally have to have forbidden zones where a signal in that range is considerer invalid. Regardless of implementation, digital is about the discretized logic of the system. That is explicitly the whole point of digital: Minor analogue distortion does not change the information content of the signal unless it is so bad as to flip a bit.

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[–] YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 41 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Hear me out! Bird factor authentication!

Please honk your seagull to unlock your ed25519-sk ssh key

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[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Birds are totally organic organisms. Rightttttt. BIRDS ARENT REAL!!!!

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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Quick, someone teach it the soundtrack to Doom

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Can you run Doom on it tho?

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[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 4 days ago

Well of course NSA's spy device can store information. We've known this for decades

[–] muzzle@lemmy.zip 41 points 4 days ago

This is a whole new twist over RFC 1149: IP over Avian Carriers

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 38 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Some people will use anything but cloud storage

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

But. I mean. The data COULD reach the clouds I mean... Bird....

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Me, everytime I see a bird:

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[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

This only seems to support the theory

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[–] orenj@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

How useful would this have been back at the dawn of computation, I wonder?

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Pigeon guided missile but instead of pigeon it's a parrot and sings relevant source code in hex and an interpeter assembles it.

(I hate the last 4 words that sentence I made.)

They didn’t have ultrasonic microphones at the dawn of computation

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Data on a bird ? This will convince people about birds being drones more now.

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[–] ScrotusMaximus@lemmy.zip 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

good to see there are new developments in the IP Over Avian Carrier space

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[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

I want this to be the next reveal in a movie or TV series, in the same fashion as the one of the Navajo "backing up" the Smoking Man's magnetic tape in The X-Files.

[–] Hatsune_Miku@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] salty_chief@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Birds are the OG text device. Tie a little note and send them on their way.

One famous example is Cher Ami, a pigeon who delivered a message that saved a group of surrounded American soldiers during WW1.

Edit: WW1 and WW3 /s

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[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

What if I have bird blindness and I try and teach it to a duck?

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