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[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 175 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Whoever stole my MS office, I'll find you. You have my Word.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I hate you so much.

Have my upvote.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

PowerPoints at you, enthusiastically.

[–] boeman@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 11 points 2 weeks ago

I cannot Access the words to describe this.

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[–] SpicyTaint@lemmy.world 92 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Want to work with .docx files written in English from someone who lives in a country whose main language isn't English? Better enjoy all your English words being marked as mispelt because fuck you.

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 86 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (16 children)

Wanna know something fun about Office?
The keyboard shortcuts are localized.

YES, REALLY.

If you press Ctrl+S when running in Portuguese, it doesn't save, it underlines the word instead (Because the word for it is "Sublinhar").

Whoever is responsible for this decision won't die, when their time comes they'll be swallowed alive by the earth and welcomed into the 10th circle of hell, created for them exclusively.

The 11th circle is reserved for he who decided to localize the Excel Formula Functions too.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I sure am glad I just use English on all my devices despite it not being my native language.

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[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

I thought my respect for Word had troughed.

[–] FalschgeldFurkan@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The commands in Excel are localised too, and if you want to change languages you'd have to install some language pack. And I think that due to admin lockdown policies in Windows, if you have to work on a restricted company machine, you won't even be able to do that because you don't have permission to install stuff

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[–] mech@feddit.org 78 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] brightandshinyobject@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

massgrave.dev that's all I'm gonna say.

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[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 60 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (21 children)

Everyone complaining here about not being able to have unique footers or moving images or ignoring spelling errors just doesn't know what they're doing. You're literally the bad workman blaming the tool. I can do all of those things in Word.

If you prefer another tool, fine. But please stop shitting on things just because you don't understand them.

And PDF was never meant to be edited. Its sole purpose is to give you a document file which comes out exactly the same on computer screens and printers everywhere. Compact, reliable, compatible. If you need to replace parts of a PDF document post publication, it should be prepared using the Forms tools that are readily available in all good PDF suites.

By the way: I paid 30 Euros for an Office 2019 lifetime license. If ever that should not receive further updates then I'm ready to fork over another 30.

[–] AXLplosion@lemmy.zip 54 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I was working on my thesis a couple days ago using Word, and it permanently deleted a whole line of text when I pressed ctrl+Z to undo a mistake.

That happened with every line on the page until i copied everything to a different text editor and then copied it back to Word.

I respect your take but I will never respect Word.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Using word for a thesis sounds like a nightmare I would never dare to do

For big projects like that, stuff like LaTeX is so much better in my experience, you could even set up version control for it with, say, git, or similar

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"I love typing in ten thousand pounds of syntatic sugar"

-- me, an idiot who used embedded images for formulas in a markdown file which gets converted into a PDF

"Totally way easier than LaTeX, I swear"

[–] fbr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You may benefit from checking out Typst which gives all of the benefits (and some more) of LaTeX, but without all of the syntax garbage.

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[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

lol imagine blaming paid users for ms shit workflow

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 49 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Want to make the header or footer on this page unique? Eat a bag of dicks.

Want to add a letter to an item in a table without fucking up the formatting of every document ever created across known time and space? Guck you.

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Spell checking for this comment coming to you from Microsoft

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I use SwiftKey - so that's legitimately true.

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

Microsoft has had a monopoly on office software since the 90s. They illegally leveraged this monopoly to try to destroy competition in other areas. Most infamously, they destroyed Netscape to try to kill competition in the early Internet space. That resulted in a trial for illegally abusing their monopoly which they lost. Then George W. Bush was elected president, and somehow Microsoft effectively got off with essentially no punishment. Admittedly though, part of that was that the judge in the case was so outraged at some of the stuff Microsoft pulled (submitting falsified evidence, having Bill Gates lie under oath repeatedly) that he talked about it in public when he shouldn't, which opened a door for Microsoft to try to weasel out of the loss.

The "evil" in Google's motto "Don't be evil" was widely viewed as being Microsoft. Google was an Internet company in an age where Microsoft was on trial for using their power to make everything about the Internet shitty so that they could control it. In the early days of Google, people weren't even allowed to use Microsoft software, including Windows, without a special dispensation from the higher-ups. Microsoft effectively avoided any kind of punishment for their abuse of their monopoly, but it distracted them and made them cautious, so they weren't able to crush Google before it could get going. Before anybody chimes in about how Google is evil, first read up in what Microsoft did. Google might be a bit shady, but where Google got its monopoly by spending hundreds of billions to make its search engine the default, Microsoft used tactics to destroy potential competitors and drive them out of business.

If the US (and the world) had effective enforcement of the anti-monopoly laws, Word would actually have to compete on its own merits. But, because it's a monopoly, Microsoft can just sit back and keep collecting rent.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Microsoft hurt Netscape, but it was AOL that killed it. At the height of the dotcom bubble, Wall street handed AOL more money than they knew what to do with so AOL bought Netscape. Of course they didn't have any idea what to do with it (they still kept putting IE on the discs they mailed out to people even when they owned Netscape) and it eventually withered away and died.

The people that ran Netscape correctly predicted it would go this way, but it was a ridiculous amount of money AOL was offering. Luckily they made releasing the code as open source as part of the deal.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 41 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

I just want to write Markdown. I just want to write Markdown. I just want to write Markdown. I just want to write Markdown.

The thing I really hate about modern word processors and everyone's obsession with PDFs is that the vast majority of the time things will never be printed, but everything still focuses on paginated formats. Nobody seems to get this but you can literally send someone a .HTML file that they can just open in their browsers. Even when I tell developers about this they say dumb things like a single file will load slower. Buddy, it's loading from the disk, it's not querying shit, it is okay to make it a single HTML file.

But no, fuck you, just pages and PDFs.

The silver lining is that at least Google Docs (I don't use other editors often) now has a "pageless" mode. But the amount of times I've run into weird things like accidentally backspacing the last character of something with special formatting only to undo it, add extra characters temporarily, then backspace in front of it... Fucking hell. Just let me write Markdown. Just let me write Markdown! JUST LET ME WRITE MARKDOWN!

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (20 children)

Paginated formats still have advantages even if they are never printed. It just makes referencing stuff so much easier, if you can say "page 451, second headline, third paragraph".

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lol "edit your expectations" got me :D

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

I have made so many thousands of dollars in consulting fees because people don't know about the "align object: over text" option. I would even show them, and they'd still call me back the next week offering money.

[–] muse@piefed.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 weeks ago

Want to automate your office document? Enjoy making your business dependent on a language

  • that will be a dead end for your developer career
  • where arrays can start at 0 or 1
  • where checking for an array involves ignoring an error and resuming
  • that is guaranteed to be broken a future patch
  • that has to be given permission to run in a security center
[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

edit a pdf? Edit your expectations.

I feel seen. The number of times I've actually needed to do this is too damn high. Sure, I feel entitled to not have to pay for the privilege, as the task was usually thrust upon me by some bank, HR department, or legal firm. But the number of scummy websites online that will happily play with your doc's confidential info for free, is too damn high. I can't imagine anyone with average computer skills navigating this particular turing tarpit unscathed.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Inkscape is a free vector editor that handles pdf edits relatively well. Always my goto.
* Assuming you're making minor changes.

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[–] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 15 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Be Australian. Set language to English: Australian

Write word: color. Does not underline spelling error.

Don't even mention PowerPoint language.

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[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Libre Office isn't just a usable substitute for Word and the rest of Office. It is downright superior -- it being free and open source need not even be in the equation. I tried to use Word on my partner's laptop the other day and all I could think was "what is this crap??".

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Just for the record, people who are used to Word say the same about Libre Office.

Unfortunately, how familiar we are with a tool is much more important to us than how good it is.

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[–] julianwgs@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There is LaTex which I would recommend for any kind of longer document.

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[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 10 points 2 weeks ago

Because nobody got ever fired for choosing Microsoft. It's like that with a lot of stuff. It's the default choice because everybody else uses it, good or not. Almost nobody is going to stick their neck outs to chose something differently.

The business world in a nutshell, borrowed from Dead Poets Society: https://youtu.be/nJ_htuCMCqM

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

WYSIWYG editors are often the worst thing to ever exist. (See: Dreamweaver) I don't know how Word has managed to stay alive for so long.

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 weeks ago

I remember a blog post about about how WYSIWYG editors should be called "what you see doesn't prepare you for the eldritch horrors that lurk below the surface" editors.

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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Might have something to do with Microsoft offering M365 to nearly all universities for dirt cheap or free.

Don't agree to Microsoft's terms of service? Guess university isn't for you.

[–] IpsumLauren@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

"Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft"

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